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Old 22 April 2017, 11:11 AM   #31
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Hope you weren't speeding too much pal as then they might give you one of them awareness courses and no points fingers crosses pal ....
Thanks mate but unfortunately I received another notice a few weeks later - such bad luck - and already used the speed awareness lifeline back in Jan.

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So for my foolish 54mph in a 30mph zone, yesterday I received 6 points and 1000 (yes one thousand) fine, payable by 2 May.
Btw the 30 zone is not signposted and is a section of dual carriageway. Police obviously enjoying hiding there!

I'm a little outraged that the offence was back in Oct and that they seemingly withheld their decision until fines were revised.

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Old 22 April 2017, 11:21 AM   #32
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...I'm a little outraged that the offence was back in Oct and that they seemingly withheld their decision until fines were revised.

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I know the CAB are limp at best, but you could try them for advice?

Or get a solicitor's free half hour...?

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Old 22 April 2017, 11:46 AM   #33
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Thanks mate but unfortunately I received another notice a few weeks later - such bad luck - and already used the speed awareness lifeline back in Jan.

Update:
So for my foolish 54mph in a 30mph zone, yesterday I received 6 points and 1000 (yes one thousand) fine, payable by 2 May.
Btw the 30 zone is not signposted and is a section of dual carriageway. Police obviously enjoying hiding there!

I'm a little outraged that the offence was back in Oct and that they seemingly withheld their decision until fines were revised.

Nick
there would be a 30 sign somewhere, roundabouts can be deceptive where you cross a 30 going in but exit onto a dual carriageway, the 30 limit is maintained until the next speed sign but the natural tendency is to accelerate away from the roundabout.
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Old 22 April 2017, 01:23 PM   #34
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there would be a 30 sign somewhere, roundabouts can be deceptive where you cross a 30 going in but exit onto a dual carriageway, the 30 limit is maintained until the next speed sign but the natural tendency is to accelerate away from the roundabout.
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If road has street lights at prescribed distances - 30mph signs not required. It's assumed to be 30mph unless other limit is signposted at start of limit, with small repeaters on the lamp posts along length of road.
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Old 22 April 2017, 02:56 PM   #35
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If road has street lights at prescribed distances - 30mph signs not required. It's assumed to be 30mph unless other limit is signposted at start of limit, with small repeaters on the lamp posts along length of road.
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there is always a sign when you cross into the 30 zone, it's just remembering when you're still in it, the clue's are there of course.
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Old 22 April 2017, 03:10 PM   #36
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Anyone in Manchester, be aware that Princess Parkway is going to 30 mph.
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Old 22 April 2017, 03:33 PM   #37
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just going out of town ( brighton) on single merging into double ( one way ) you used be able crank go straight 30-50 . Now theres signs a plenty telling you its STILL 30, STILL 30......lol
(I assume reidents posh block flats there instigated it )



Id say iv been passed 87% of the time trying to stick to the 30

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Old 23 April 2017, 06:43 AM   #38
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Wow, these new fines and points are serious stuff. So why isn't it an automatic 6 points and massive fine for using a mobile phone then??

Anyway, not that I condone speeding but it has me wondering if I should invest in a speed camera detector jobbie just in case of a lapse in concentration.

Are the modern ones any good at warning you of mobile cameras?
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Old 23 April 2017, 06:45 AM   #39
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Thanks mate but unfortunately I received another notice a few weeks later - such bad luck - and already used the speed awareness lifeline back in Jan.

Update:
So for my foolish 54mph in a 30mph zone, yesterday I received 6 points and 1000 (yes one thousand) fine, payable by 2 May.
Btw the 30 zone is not signposted and is a section of dual carriageway. Police obviously enjoying hiding there!

I'm a little outraged that the offence was back in Oct and that they seemingly withheld their decision until fines were revised.

Nick

Doesn't the fine have to be in accordance with the guidelines that were in force when the offence was committed?
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Old 23 April 2017, 09:49 AM   #40
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Yes that's mad .
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Old 23 April 2017, 10:15 PM   #41
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Wow, these new fines and points are serious stuff. So why isn't it an automatic 6 points and massive fine for using a mobile phone then??

Anyway, not that I condone speeding but it has me wondering if I should invest in a speed camera detector jobbie just in case of a lapse in concentration.

Are the modern ones any good at warning you of mobile cameras?
I just assume there is a camera everywhere lol.
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Old 24 April 2017, 09:36 PM   #42
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I checked with a solicitor today to learn that fines have been proportionate to the offenders income for a while now. The revised law rolled out today means it will be even more from now on, so I guess a grand isn't so bad
I've obviously been in the dark since my last speeding fine issued back in '95.

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Old 25 April 2017, 07:02 AM   #43
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Well you bloody well deserved it, 54 in a 30. Obviously you're regular speeder with a SAC in January as well.

We can hope a sting in the pocket fine and increased premiums(which will be horrendous) for 5 years will force you off the road or alter your driving to be a sensible and safe road user.

The days are gone of speeding and stupid driving, cameras everywhere, police, council and ever growing private drivers with dashcams.
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Old 25 April 2017, 08:28 AM   #44
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I think he's made gross error Andy , and an unusual stretch road

Don't believe anyone this age would be that daft
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Old 25 April 2017, 12:33 PM   #45
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What an odd argument, you considered checking your speed to be more of a risk than speeding?
Yes in the circumstances of this discussion. Clearly there are extremes, but if somebody is driving 'normally' past a school, I want them looking at the road and surroundings, and not at their speedometer, so I don't find it odd at all. Even if a driver is not over the limit, I'd imagine a good chunk take their eyes off the road to see how fast they are going whenever they see a speed camera/trap/officer etc. It's still a mute point anyway, because as I said, and other have said, it's frequently at a standstill outside schools at dropping off and picking up times anyway. I'm much prefer a camera that books people for stopping on the school zigzags and thus impairing visibility, that happens nearly every time I go to pick our young'un up, but nothing seems to be done about it due to lack of resources
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Old 25 April 2017, 07:33 PM   #46
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Thanks mate but unfortunately I received another notice a few weeks later - such bad luck - and already used the speed awareness lifeline back in Jan.

Update:
So for my foolish 54mph in a 30mph zone, yesterday I received 6 points and 1000 (yes one thousand) fine, payable by 2 May.
Btw the 30 zone is not signposted and is a section of dual carriageway. Police obviously enjoying hiding there!

I'm a little outraged that the offence was back in Oct and that they seemingly withheld their decision until fines were revised.

Nick
Not Princess rd in Manchester?
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Old 25 April 2017, 10:22 PM   #47
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No mate, Derby.

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Old 26 April 2017, 09:16 AM   #48
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Yes in the circumstances of this discussion. Clearly there are extremes, but if somebody is driving 'normally' past a school, I want them looking at the road and surroundings, and not at their speedometer, so I don't find it odd at all. Even if a driver is not over the limit, I'd imagine a good chunk take their eyes off the road to see how fast they are going whenever they see a speed camera/trap/officer etc. It's still a mute point anyway, because as I said, and other have said, it's frequently at a standstill outside schools at dropping off and picking up times anyway. I'm much prefer a camera that books people for stopping on the school zigzags and thus impairing visibility, that happens nearly every time I go to pick our young'un up, but nothing seems to be done about it due to lack of resources
How long do you spend looking at the speedo?
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Old 26 April 2017, 03:54 PM   #49
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How long do you spend looking at the speedo?
Should be split second.

You should be driving by observing - far distance, middle distance, near distance, instruments, mirrors -and then repeat.
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How long do you spend looking at the speedo?
Speedo? I'm looking at the red line bruv init
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Id like to know how much you would be fined etc, If you where to steal a car and the police pursuit you and you drive dangerous at speeds over 100mph in a 30mph zone before being caught and obviously arrested???

Reckon the courts would give you a suspended sentence and disqualify you from driving and you would probably pay a lot less then 1000 skoobidude got fined!!!

As a law-abiding driver with tax/mot/car registered in your name/insured your a easy target for the police!!!
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Speedo? I'm looking at the red line bruv init
If you had a genuine sti bruv you could set the buzzer to beep as I have just before 8500rpm
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Id like to know how much you would be fined etc, If you where to steal a car and the police pursuit you and you drive dangerous at speeds over 100mph in a 30mph zone before being caught and obviously arrested???

Reckon the courts would give you a suspended sentence and disqualify you from driving and you would probably pay a lot less then 1000 skoobidude got fined!!!

As a law-abiding driver with tax/mot/car registered in your name/insured your a easy target for the police!!!
They would just lump all that into the 'dangerous drive' (speeding, red lights, one way signs, keep left signs etc etc). Either a disqualification, jail term and/or heavy fine. But the primary offence would be the burglary/theft of the car.

If you are a law-abiding driver, then what will you be a target for?
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If you are a law-abiding driver, then what will you be a target for?
Because your car is legit your easy to find, police pop your details into the database and send the offence straight to your address! A car that hasn't been registered with your details makes it a lot harder for them to find you!!!

Not that im saying that you should do to get away from speeding/parking fines etc, but a lot of people dont send the V5 off with there details to the DVLA when buying a used car, as ive had this happen to me and I got tickets through my door, lucky enough the guy was local and I gave his address/details and never heard of them again!!
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But if you're law abiding, then wouldn't you be sticking to the speed limits anyway?
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If you had a genuine sti bruv you could set the buzzer to beep as I have just before 8500rpm
Wot ya mean like a gen Sti? <dabs>
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But if you're law abiding, then wouldn't you be sticking to the speed limits anyway?
You got me there!!!
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