ALi-B

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Plenty more to follow

I've been saying all along; people who buy a modern direct-injected petrol are still going to face potentially expensive engine problems in the future as they age and wear. Straight from the frying pan into the fire

They don't realise direct injection petrols have equally complex fueling/ignition/emissions control to a diesel.

The only way to avoid was buy a simple basic car like a Kia Picanto or Hyundai i10 which were built like a 20yr old Nissan Micra and drove pretty similar....cable clutch, cable throttle, engine was a copy of a Nissan E13 lump.

Sadly the latest Picanto/i10 now have fly by wire and direct injection along with a load of other tech. So no longer an option anymore.

Fiat's 1980's "FIRE" engine is still going though...for now. Oh and the V8 pushrod lump in the Bentley Mulsanne (lots of other stuff to go wrong on them though ).

alcazar

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The two FIAT diesel engines I've had experience of wouldn't lead me to recommend Diesel, let alone FIAT

andy97

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VW has lost a class action case in the UK for its cheat device. Expect compensation

lozgti1

Love a good thread revival

And no. Always loved petrol. Only bought diesel because government said go that way. Cheap car tax and great MPG.

Well..... lying twots....

Leggygtb

bought a diesel with 48v electric hybrid assist.
cheap to run and good mpg.
Happy days

mrtheedge2u2

Compensation should only go to those people who can prove that they solely bought the car due to the emissions of that car.

SouthWalesSam

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And three years on I've replaced that one with another 3-litre V6 diesel.
Cracking fuel consumption, great range, quick and surefooted and Euro-6 compliant.

And I expected my next family load-lugger to be a Euro-6d compliant (or better) diesel hybrid when I come to replace it two years from now.
Yes, I would still buy a diesel car. Diesel's not dead.

andy97

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Every person in the UK should receive a sum of money.
Those who bought their vehicles and still own them, should have their cars bought back so they dont lose out financially and buy some other manufacturer which preferably isnt diesel

mrtheedge2u2

Every person? Really? You talk ****.

"so Dave, why do you deserve compensation?
"Because I bought my 6 litre Diesel purely on the emissions of the car".... yeah right.

That is like saying a guy who purchases, and takes, a flight from London to New York with BA should get compensation because BA cancelled the flight from Manchester to Moscow.

SouthWalesSam

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Sadly, you're not the only person to have noticed this.

andy97

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VW wilfully, knowingly acted to cheat an emissions level which polluted the atmosphere. Everyone was, has been effected. So they must compensate everyone. That will teach them a valuable lesson-sting them in the pocket always works

mrtheedge2u2

As pollution travels around the world in slip streams then I want my money also!!!! Even though I never bought any of the cars in questions. I think you should take your message and start a 7.8 billion person class action lawsuit. But be reasonable, just ask for 10,000 USD per person.... so 10,000 USD x 7,800,000,000 = 78,000,000,000,000 (78 trillion USD). Sound about right?

But also, you bought an electric car but I was under the assumption that they are pollution-free. But now I realise that the power plants extra energy creation needed to fuel your car contributes to the pollution......so based on that you have affected the pollution for me and must pay me!

IdonthaveaScooby

He should be piping out all his surplus solar energy to every one us for free , if he really cared !

RetroPug

VW went further than everyone else, but lots of manufacturers were mapping around emissions regulations, and lots of manufacturers employ all sorts of other methods to pass a lot of other standards as well.

They might have been the only ones to run a separate map for dyno tests, but other manufacturers deliberately put lean regions in maps that aligned with dyno profiles etc. The legislation was completely flawed, which is why it is changing.

ALi-B

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As above lots of cars were made by other manufacturers that blatantly cannot meet EU5/6 emissions. Fiat Chrysler and Renault-Nissan in real world testing were 12times over their respective Eu6 limit!

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GlesgaKiss

Have been tempted to buy a 2018/19 facelifted Golf 7.5 GTD lately. Currently have a remapped 2015 R line diesel I want to replace, but think I'll hang on to it for another year now and see what the new Golf is like when it hits the streets and what the different engines are like in the real world before I make a choice. I'm worried about an 18/19 plate car plummeting in value after I buy it as it falls behind newer engine technology.

Andycat

always fancied a A5 3.0 TDI quattro .....seams to remap very good too