sure, but does it really alter the substantive point

 

No, so why even make it in the first place? That's my point.

 

Romans did that in Britain years ago - but we don't hate the modern day Italians for it!
What happened 400 years ago (or 50 for that matter) - is not really relevant today.
If it was - then McGuiness and Adams should also be put on trial for their past.

 

Just war theory.

 

Expand JT

Edited to add - just googled the term and looking into it

 

freedom fighter or terrorist? Depends on what side you are on

 

So do you (and others on here with the same mentality) apply that same logic to Islamic State?

 

Yes.

They cant ALL be nut jobs...

 

 

It's called empathy.

 

It's incredible that anyone could express such a view even on Scoobynet. The scum of the IRA deserve rights denied to British soldiers, and now it seems Isis just lacks our understanding. FFS!

 

No, it's called utter stupidity.

 

You empathise with IS?

 

It just shows what a good job the system has done on some people, that they don't even recognise or are not even willing to entertain the possibility that they may be in the wrong, truly is no different to the so called religious nut jobs, but yet again, I don't expect them to be able to see it.

 

What that IS might not be terrorists and that they are murdering children and adults at will? You deny that's happening do you and that it is all propaganda?

And so called religious nut jobs, so you deny they exist as well?

It is your denial of the truth that is worrying and I think it might be you who is actually in the wrong but of course that could never be the case could it?!

 

It gets worse.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...d=tmg_share_fb

 

Will any of these "innocent" mourners be prosecuted?

 

If the two of you struggle with the notion that the difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter is perspective then quite frankly this discussion isn't worth continuing.

I can understand why they exist and carry out the actions that they do.

 

Mandela and Castro were both freedom fighters/terrorists. And the point you are making is?

 

see now what you've done there is just come up with an opinion and attribute it to me as though it's something I've said, when in fact I've said none of that. Please show me where I said it's not happening.
Now this is typical behaviour of a well conditioned person, jump to what erks them and attribute it to the opposition as opposed to taking the time to process and understand the reality. Yet again you display the tendencies of those you call your enemies.
One of the statistics of the Iraq war is that allied forces killed more civilians during that war than Saddam did during his time. Not sure on exact numbers as I'm on my phone so can't look into it.
Like I said we say sorry so that makes it OK right.

 

It was a discussion of the merits of the statement "one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter" and An0n0m0us assertion that the statement is "stupidity".

 

The UK and members of the coalition make weapons, sell them to these countries, train their soldier's, stir the pot and sit back and wait for it to kick off, then the inevitable happens we deny responsibility and send in the hero's.

Remember that bear.

 

You only need to look at the news today about Saudi using British made cluster bombs for the evidence, but hey Saudi is an Allie and they're all right so no worries.

 

A Pythonesque view of terrorists: 'After all we should remember that a murderer is only an extroverted suicide.' I just hope neither you nor your family find yourselves on the wrong end of terrorist action; it might just alter your perspective slightly.

 

The problem came when they all made friends and the USSR, Germany et all cold war ended and we needed a new bad guy, no money in peace.

 

Well that's quite different, Neil. I'd be cautious declaring empathy for an organisation whose actions have been classed as extreme by Al-Qaeda.

 

Ah, well that's OK then. For instance their attack on the World Trade Centre showed Al Qaeda to be quite different to Isis, vicious but fair.

 

Is it, really?!?!

Neil can understand why they exist and carry out the actions that they do..... honestly this is unreal.

SN seems to have a vocal number of anti-establishment / conspiracy theorist / terrorist sympathisers.

Wow

 

Nothing like a bit of labeling to discredit free thinking people.😉

 

Calm down. I understand terrorism, too. Don't lose objectivity in the face of horror, you'll only hand power to the ministers of that horror.