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Old Nov 27, 2016 | 02:06 PM
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Re: Ultrac Sessanta........ I believe they no longer make these and they have been replaced with a more conventional tread pattern tyre.
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Old Nov 27, 2016 | 03:38 PM
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After more reading I'm thinking I'd be better off going with a 225 tyre and just hope I don't have any rubbing issues.. there seems to be so many more options at that size.
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Old Nov 27, 2016 | 03:40 PM
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These seem like good value....

http://www.camskill.co.uk/m61b0s134p..._Noise%3A_74dB
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Old Nov 27, 2016 | 03:48 PM
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I think a 225 tyre is acceptable on some classics without work tbh depending on et and width of wheels etc, its just a risk to get them and have to roll arches etc or just raise suspension slightly
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Old Nov 27, 2016 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
I think a 225 tyre is acceptable on some classics without work tbh depending on et and width of wheels etc, its just a risk to get them and have to roll arches etc or just raise suspension slightly

I'm thinking a 7.5" wheel or maybe 8" and et48.... and the car won't be super low either...
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Old Nov 27, 2016 | 04:02 PM
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I much preferred the firmer ride of 18's over 17's and contrary to others, I found the handling totally fine.
215/35/18 for the record.

Exactly the same, here.

But FTR, in terms of ride, there's hardly any difference between this size and my previous 215/45 R17 set-up. For me, at least.

So, 215/35 R18 on Mill. Revs with Conti CS 5. Okay, maybe not the 'sexiest' boots out there, so to speak - but have had zero issues with these tyres. Great dry grip - they 'bite' into turns tenaciously. Plus, allegedly excellent in the wet (I don't really push in the wet). I've never had them 'step out' on me in any conditions.... Yet!


When I need to replace, I'll prob change to whatever the latest Michelin Super Sport will be.

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Old Nov 27, 2016 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by joz8968
Exactly the same, here.

But FTR, in terms of ride, there's hardly any difference between this size and my previous 215/45 R17 set-up. For me, at least.

So, 215/35 R18 on Mill. Revs with Conti CS 5. Okay, maybe not the 'sexiest' boots out there, so to speak - but have had zero issues with these tyres. Great dry grip - they 'bite' into turns tenaciously. Plus, allegedly excellent in the wet (I don't really push in the wet). I've never had them 'step out' on me in any conditions.... Yet!


When I need to replace, I'll prob change to whatever the latest Michelin Super Sport will be.
Pilot Sport 4S available in 19's and 20's in the new year.
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Old Nov 27, 2016 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
After more reading I'm thinking I'd be better off going with a 225 tyre and just hope I don't have any rubbing issues.. there seems to be so many more options at that size.
I you must have an 18" wheel - I think your original idea of 215 is better.

If it's a trackday tyre your after? Then:
Federal 595 rs-rr (the rs-r replacement) is made in an 215/40 18 with an actual measured width of 216mm.
The last thing you need, if your running a properly compliant suspension and sensible camber, is a supposedly 225 tyre measuring 10mm wider - which is not uncommon.
Wasn't the optional p1 wheel 7.5 x 18 et51

Don't know if the rs-rr are available in the UK yet?
Federal Tyres - UHP - 595RS-RR

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Old Nov 27, 2016 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 2pot
I you must have an 18" wheel - I think your original idea of 215 is better.

If it's a trackday tyre your after? Then:
Federal 595 rs-rr (the rs-r replacement) is made in an 215/40 18 with an actual measured width of 216mm.
The last thing you need, if your running a properly compliant suspension and sensible camber, is a supposedly 225 tyre measuring 10mm wider - which is not uncommon.
Wasn't the optional p1 wheel 7.5 x 18 et51

Don't know if the rs-rr are available in the UK yet?
Federal Tyres - UHP - 595RS-RR

Fair point, I've been doing alot of reading over the last couple of days and like you say, it's not uncommon for tyres to be quite a bit wider than the stated size....
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Old Nov 28, 2016 | 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Brun
Re: Ultrac Sessanta........ I believe they no longer make these and they have been replaced with a more conventional tread pattern tyre.
Still on their website http://www.vredestein.co.uk/car-tyre...essanta/sizes/
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Old Nov 28, 2016 | 09:45 PM
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I'm wanting some new 19's next year, so looking round what to go for

245-35-19
http://www.camskill.co.uk/m55b0s336p...5_19_245_35R19

Now am I right in thinking if a Fuel and Wet rating + the speed rate is the same on Tyres.. they are just as good?

why is a £227 tyre any better than a £99 tyre when they have the same E fuel & A wet ratings?


HELP!!!! lol
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Old Nov 28, 2016 | 09:52 PM
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Vreddy's
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Old Nov 29, 2016 | 12:27 PM
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Splash out and treat yourself to a set of Michelin Super Sports. Their sublime ride and amazing handling/feel is second to none and worth the money. Quality tyres.
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Old Nov 29, 2016 | 02:35 PM
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go the whole hog
Mich Cup 2's
tried a fair few types of tyres for track use and nothing comes close...
other than slicks
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Old Nov 30, 2016 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by redgt3
go the whole hog
Mich Cup 2's
tried a fair few types of tyres for track use and nothing comes close...
other than slicks
only a C rating for wet though
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Old Dec 1, 2016 | 09:46 PM
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Have you got a Costco card? Only asking as got a set of 225/40/18 pilot sport 4's for £350 from Costco this month.
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Old Dec 2, 2016 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by salsa-king
only a C rating for wet though
Better than you may think in the wet; certainly better than 888's
I'm running them on a 500bhp rear wheel drive car with no problems in all conditions
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Old Dec 2, 2016 | 07:15 PM
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Ordered full set of Toyo Proxes T1R today from demon-tweeks eBay page for £209 delivered see how they are. Currently have Yokohama
S/drives? Were on car when it came from Japan nice in dry but really not good in wet/damp plus awful road noise.
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Old Dec 2, 2016 | 08:14 PM
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would these be ok then on ebay?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-x-245-35...oAAOSwkl5Xc3u1
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Old Dec 2, 2016 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by salsa-king
Excellent grip and long lasting are not 2 things that go together when talking about tyres.

I always stick to brands I've heard of when it comes to tyres, 10/20 quid a corner is hardly worth it when it comes to compromising safety.
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Old Dec 2, 2016 | 10:50 PM
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Kumho's come out good.. plus there R&D is in Birmingham (UK) at £110 a corner.
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Old Dec 3, 2016 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by salsa-king
I'm wanting some new 19's next year, so looking round what to go for

245-35-19
http://www.camskill.co.uk/m55b0s336p...5_19_245_35R19

Now am I right in thinking if a Fuel and Wet rating + the speed rate is the same on Tyres.. they are just as good?

why is a £227 tyre any better than a £99 tyre when they have the same E fuel & A wet ratings?


HELP!!!! lol
If you have somewhere that will fit them, plenty of choice on Tyre Leader (179 tyres in that size!) e.g.

https://www.tyreleader.co.uk/car-tyr...erby=prixD&p=2

I've had Vredestein Sessanta for the last 2 sets - good tyre. Just put a set of Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3 on - recommend those!
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Old Dec 3, 2016 | 10:32 PM
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Use tyrleader all the time

They are based in Holland i believe but excellent prices and delivery is normally 2-3 days
Can then get them fitted at a local place for £10 a corner. Would highly recomend
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Old Dec 4, 2016 | 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Ian E
If you have somewhere that will fit them, plenty of choice on Tyre Leader (179 tyres in that size!) e.g.

https://www.tyreleader.co.uk/car-tyr...erby=prixD&p=2

I've had Vredestein Sessanta for the last 2 sets - good tyre. Just put a set of Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3 on - recommend those!
I've just been told by someone at dinner tonight (as we were discussing what tyres I should go for) not to touch those. As he had a terrible time with them
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Old Dec 4, 2016 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by andyf31
Have you got a Costco card? Only asking as got a set of 225/40/18 pilot sport 4's for £350 from Costco this month.
Did this price include fitting mate if you don't mind me asking?
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Originally Posted by salsa-king
I've just been told by someone at dinner tonight (as we were discussing what tyres I should go for) not to touch those. As he had a terrible time with them
A terrible time with Tyre Leader or the Tyres? Never had a problem with Tyre Leader - I have used them loads. Tyres seem fine to me.
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Originally Posted by Ian E
A terrible time with Tyre Leader or the Tyres? Never had a problem with Tyre Leader - I have used them loads. Tyres seem fine to me.
With those tyres.

But seen a guy at donington track day this morning. Who has them and he said they were OK.
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Old Dec 4, 2016 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by salsa-king
With those tyres.

But seen a guy at donington track day this morning. Who has them and he said they were OK.
They came 2nd in Evo Best Tyres 2016 http://www.evo.co.uk/features/18309/...-evo-tyre-test

I really rate them. I'd be interested to know why someone thought they were terrible.
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Old Dec 4, 2016 | 09:08 PM
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Eagle F1 used to be good then they started messing with them and turned a good thing into rubbish. I hear they are changing the Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta's which are an excellent tyre why change a good thing.
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Originally Posted by 1509joe
Eagle F1 used to be good then they started messing with them and turned a good thing into rubbish. I hear they are changing the Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta's which are an excellent tyre why change a good thing.
Genuinely interested to know why Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3's are "Terrible" / "Rubbish". In what way?
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