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Old 01 February 2018, 01:15 PM
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So hang on , we'll still be in the eu but we dont want play by the rules
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42896996
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I voted to stay in but after reading this new blackmail attempt from the EU I would not give them any of the stupid cash they are after and just take our chances with global trading rules as the EU also needs to give us permission before we can set up a trade agreement with any other country outside of the EU.
Old 01 February 2018, 07:22 PM
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blackmail , how ?
Old 01 February 2018, 07:43 PM
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They are saying no trade agreement unless they allow migrants to have full citizen rights all the way thru the transition period.
Old 01 February 2018, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
They are saying no trade agreement unless they allow migrants to have full citizen rights all the way thru the transition period.
aren't they saying we can negotiate new trade agreements, but they can't come into force whilst we are part of the SM and CU

the fact that we would not be allowed to have a working bilateral FTA with a third country and yet still be in the EU CU is obvious to anyone with even the simplest grasp of international trade law

and the EU have been pretty consistent in that we cannot enjoy the advantages of the SM without respecting the 4 freedoms

and during the transition we will enjoy the benefit's

we have asked for this transition after all
Old 01 February 2018, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
I voted to stay in but after reading this new blackmail attempt from the EU I would not give them any of the stupid cash they are after and just take our chances with global trading rules as the EU also needs to give us permission before we can set up a trade agreement with any other country outside of the EU.
It's got nothing to do with 'permission' Steve. It's the treaty that we signed up to.
Old 02 February 2018, 07:48 AM
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Invoke WTO now
Old 02 February 2018, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by andy97
Invoke WTO now
Trapped on a late running train that has cheered me up no end haha haha haha haha
Old 02 February 2018, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by trails
Trapped on a late running train that has cheered me up no end haha haha haha haha
lol, I know

hearing from the bat **** crazies makes you appreciate sanity all the more
Old 02 February 2018, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
It's got nothing to do with 'permission' Steve. It's the treaty that we signed up to.
Cheers, I’m a MailOnline reader so
Old 09 February 2018, 07:20 PM
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Why is it IDS seem think its straight battle between us and barnier ,

nothing do with the other 26
Old 20 February 2018, 01:34 PM
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Self determination eh , making the rich richer .

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2017...taken-holidays
Old 20 February 2018, 04:14 PM
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David Davis: Brexit will not plunge Britain into 'Mad Max dystopia'

That's a shame.

I was so looking forward to tracking down my ol' V8 Interceptor, zippin' on my leathers and going back to being a Road Warrior.

Old 22 February 2018, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SouthWalesSam
David Davis: Brexit will not plunge Britain into 'Mad Max dystopia'

That's a shame.

I was so looking forward to tracking down my ol' V8 Interceptor, zippin' on my leathers and going back to being a Road Warrior.

nice car


amazing that we have gone from unicorns and sunlit uplands

(Davis saying we would have numerous trade deals ready to be signed etc)

to "not as shoite as they said it would be"

that's reassuring........
Old 22 February 2018, 01:57 PM
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Thats what the pubic voted for !
Old 23 February 2018, 08:40 PM
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duplicate post
Old 23 February 2018, 08:51 PM
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Just a quick update on this clusterfvck

The UK government have spent 8 hours yesterday coming up the a “cunning plan” – well 2 out of 10 for awareness on the need for a plan

This cunning plan is known officially as “managed divergence” to anyone without a mental illness it is known as “cherry picking” and "cake and eat it" bollox

But as any sentient snetter will know – as it was endlessly discussed on the EUreferendum thread, this is simply delusional nonsense

So no surprise that less than 12 hrs later the EU respond thus

““I am glad the UK government seems to be moving towards a more detailed position. However if the media reports are correct I am afraid the UK position today is based on pure illusion. It looks like the cake [and eat it] philosophy is still alive.
“From the very start it has been a set principle of the EU27 that there cannot be any cherrypicking of single market à la carte. This will continue to be a key principle, I have no doubt.”

To further add the EU release the following information a few weeks ago
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/site...ory_issues.pdf

slides 29 and 30 are interesting - especially for the car industry in the NE

on exit


UK leaves the EU's integrated regulatory and supervisory
system
• UK Type-Approval authority no longer an EU authority:
Can no longer issue new approvals or revisions/extensions of
existing approvals (loss of competence under EU law)
Can no longer perform any supervisory functions or activities in
relation to existing approvals (e.g. conformity of production,
implementation of corrective measures resulting from market
surveillance)
● End of recognition of UK Type-Approvals – no mutual recognition


just sit back – take your time and digest the above

for clarity

CARS MADE IN THE UK WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE SOLD IN THE EU - FULL ****ING STOP

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Old 23 February 2018, 08:58 PM
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to add there is a similar one (google "EU notice to stakeholder") on the transport/haulage industry that simply states that the licence to operate a road haulage business in the EU will cease on midnight 29th March 2019

actually **** google

here it is

https://ec.europa.eu/transport/sites...-transport.pdf

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Old 23 February 2018, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
to add there is a similar one (google "EU notice to stakeholder") on the transport/haulage industry that simply states that the licence to operate a road haulage business in the EU will cease on midnight 29th March 2019

actually **** google

here it is

https://ec.europa.eu/transport/sites...-transport.pdf
The key issue is a hapless government desparately trying to stitch together at least 4 different visions of Brexit (from various factions with the Tory Party). The hopeless PM knows there's not a majority in the Commons for any of these options.

A really great negotiation position, it is not.

It's hard to see how the government will not fall over this.

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Old 23 February 2018, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
The key issue is a hapless government desparately trying to stitch together at least 4 different visions of Brexit (from various factions with the Tory Party). The hopeless PM knows there's not a majority in the Commons for any of these options.

A really great negotiation position, it is not.

It's hard to see how the government will not fall over this.
The simple fact is these cockwombles are still trying to work out how you draw a four sided triangle
Old 23 February 2018, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
The simple fact is these cockwombles are still trying to work out how you draw a four sided triangle
If I'm being reasonable, it's the hand they've been dealt.

We voted to leave they're now having to deal with the reality of what that means.

The fundamental issue they're wrestling with, is that without lots of cake 'having' and 'eating', we're going to do significant damage to our economy.

It's not actually their fault, it's the bunch of backward brain dead, gullible idiots that voted for this nonsense in the first place.

I'm going to even be more scathing, if as a result of this madness we end up with Corbyn as PM.

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Old 24 February 2018, 02:58 AM
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We could end up with Rees-Mog , which is worse ?
Old 24 February 2018, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by dpb
We could end up with Rees-Mog , which is worse ?
Corbyn
Old 24 February 2018, 10:50 AM
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However if the media reports are correct
I stopped reading at that point:

Why are these 'officials' relying on the Daily Mail (et al)?

Again just a load of huff and puff from both sides with the media clamouring to put their own opinionistic skew on it.

We won't be allowed to have any form of deal with the EU that simultaneously allows us to have our own individual deals with non-EU countries without some sort of tariffs or sanction (and therefore not free trade etc). End of. That's an opinion by the way. Something lost and confused with fact within many media outlets.

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Old 24 February 2018, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005

I'm going to even be more scathing, if as a result of this madness we end up with Corbyn as PM.
It's heading that way.

However I do believe he won't achieve anywhere near what he envisages, as the Lords will block as much of it as possible (unless he finds a way to disband or circumvent it).

'The many' (not the few) are a highly impatient bunch and will be revolting within a few months of Corbyn becoming prime minister.

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Old 24 February 2018, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
If I'm being reasonable, it's the hand they've been dealt.

We voted to leave they're now having to deal with the reality of what that means.

The fundamental issue they're wrestling with, is that without lots of cake 'having' and 'eating', we're going to do significant damage to our economy.

It's not actually their fault, it's the bunch of backward brain dead, gullible idiots that voted for this nonsense in the first place.

I'm going to even be more scathing, if as a result of this madness we end up with Corbyn as PM.
Err not really Martin

Mrs May delivered her Lancaster house speech where she set her red lines

The red lines she announced have simple consequences- please see the relevant EU produced slide from my link



It is not rocket science, and the slide is months old - they could not be more clearer

In addition it was May, egged on by Rees Morgue et al who invoked A50 and set the clock ticking

When she clearly had zero clue what she or her government where doing - all we get is delusional rhetoric

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Old 24 February 2018, 03:45 PM
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Theyre just relying on Eu falling apart before our time is up to bribe them with cash / withhold cash, as far as i can see
Old 26 February 2018, 01:33 PM
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I see your still peddling the doom and gloom worst possible outcome guess as being fact lol

it's all pure speculation lol
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
I see you are still trying to understand the probably outcomes of Brexit based on the information available at present

fixed that for you.
Old 26 February 2018, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by trails
fixed that for you.
o i'm sorry, i didnt know the final outcome was known

it's pure speculation.


Quick Reply: So Brexit seems to be a good thing then.



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