So Brexit seems to be a good thing then.
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Off course we will have standards, the UK was instrumental in setting up and all the UKs standards meet EU regulations. If the UK run parallel standards, which they are most likely to do, the the Irish/EU wont install a border. With time the UK mightcwant to diverge, but only if it sees greater benefits/opportunity from aligning elsewhere or setting their own higher standards
You maybe missed the news or perhaps choose to ignore it, but the Irish government has allocated new land for border checks. While they have no plans of building a Trump style wall, in the event of a no deal Brexit, the border will definitely not be open for goods transportation and there will be mandatory checks.
Much of the Irish trade is only technically with the UK as it poses through the UK and on to mainland Europe, so the real figures are not so clear. Ireland has also made plans to extend ports in the South of the country with new ferry routes directly to France to bypass the UK.
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So you mean all those EU regulations we actually ok after all?
You maybe missed the news or perhaps choose to ignore it, but the Irish government has allocated new land for border checks. While they have no plans of building a Trump style wall, in the event of a no deal Brexit, the border will definitely not be open for goods transportation and there will be mandatory checks.
Much of the Irish trade is only technically with the UK as it poses through the UK and on to mainland Europe, so the real figures are not so clear. Ireland has also made plans to extend ports in the South of the country with new ferry routes directly to France to bypass the UK.
You maybe missed the news or perhaps choose to ignore it, but the Irish government has allocated new land for border checks. While they have no plans of building a Trump style wall, in the event of a no deal Brexit, the border will definitely not be open for goods transportation and there will be mandatory checks.
Much of the Irish trade is only technically with the UK as it poses through the UK and on to mainland Europe, so the real figures are not so clear. Ireland has also made plans to extend ports in the South of the country with new ferry routes directly to France to bypass the UK.
Like they can afford that.
#4088
The remainers try to dismiss it, but for them it was pitched as a once in a lifetime decision, no going back, in our out.
The UK voted out.
Whats that saying, 'Suck it up'
Remainers lost and should accept it so. But as we can see many are trying to thwart the process and stop the UK leaving, There lays the problem
The UK voted out.
Whats that saying, 'Suck it up'
Remainers lost and should accept it so. But as we can see many are trying to thwart the process and stop the UK leaving, There lays the problem
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Yet you continually ignore the fact that now it is clearer what leaving actually means, the polls would suggest (and yes, they have been wrong before, but not usually by such wide margins) there really is a favourable majority now that wish to remain. You talk about remainers trying to push a minority agenda, but you are doing exactly the same now.
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There's absolutely nothing you can do either.
#4096
Yes immediately drop off a cliff with no planning whatsoever, I'm sure the shock to the UK economy would only have taken decades to recover
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They could have spent some time planning before having the vote in the first place, then you would have known what sort of brexit we were voting for and the politicians could have spent the last two years planning for that instead of arguing with each other about what brexit actually means!
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And once again we come to the crux of the problem, that Leave means so many different things to different people, there is no Brexit that is suitable.
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Why plan for something that is going to hurt the economy when simply not doing it is a much better option? Also, just because you think WTO is good (not sure why, but there you go), lots of others who voted Leave do not.
And once again we come to the crux of the problem, that Leave means so many different things to different people, there is no Brexit that is suitable.
And once again we come to the crux of the problem, that Leave means so many different things to different people, there is no Brexit that is suitable.
We see May has tried to stiff the electorate with a deal that potentially offers nothing and could lock the UK with no control and no route to leaving said deal .
WTO is the only way to honour the referendum and make a clean break from the EU . By planning over several years, would of been almost painless in transition.
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Its not WTO, I would like to have a wonderful deal. The problem is I know that a clean break is the best option, offering freedom from the EU systems.
We see May has tried to stiff the electorate with a deal that potentially offers nothing and could lock the UK with no control and no route to leaving said deal .
WTO is the only way to honour the referendum and make a clean break from the EU . By planning over several years, would of been almost painless in transition.
We see May has tried to stiff the electorate with a deal that potentially offers nothing and could lock the UK with no control and no route to leaving said deal .
WTO is the only way to honour the referendum and make a clean break from the EU . By planning over several years, would of been almost painless in transition.
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Seeing as UK govt would have had a maximum of 2 years to do any planning once they triggered Article 50, can we take it as read that you would have advocated they wait far longer than they actually did, before doing that? In fact, would you care to tell us exactly how long after the referendum result you would have been prepared to wait, before they triggered it?
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In other words, you know as well as I do that your theory that "WTO would have worked out fine if it was planned properly" simply doesn't stack up in the real world, so you've completely avoided answering the question. No real surprise there, it's been the modus operandi of Brexiters since as long as the EU has been in existence - all criticism, but no solutions.
#4105
It will be May's deal or another referendum. If Joe Public then votes for no deal, well, I suppose they will have to start then!
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46789601
How stupid are these Brexiteers? Can you get any more dumb and hypocritical than a bunch of Right wing protesters calling one of the most centrist Conservative MPs and ****? Do they not know what **** means? How can someone who wants to remain in the EU be called a Nationalist, above all by a Nationalist that wants to leave the EU?
How stupid are these Brexiteers? Can you get any more dumb and hypocritical than a bunch of Right wing protesters calling one of the most centrist Conservative MPs and ****? Do they not know what **** means? How can someone who wants to remain in the EU be called a Nationalist, above all by a Nationalist that wants to leave the EU?
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46789601
How stupid are these Brexiteers? Can you get any more dumb and hypocritical than a bunch of Right wing protesters calling one of the most centrist Conservative MPs and ****? Do they not know what **** means? How can someone who wants to remain in the EU be called a Nationalist, above all by a Nationalist that wants to leave the EU?
How stupid are these Brexiteers? Can you get any more dumb and hypocritical than a bunch of Right wing protesters calling one of the most centrist Conservative MPs and ****? Do they not know what **** means? How can someone who wants to remain in the EU be called a Nationalist, above all by a Nationalist that wants to leave the EU?
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Some personal good Brexit related news for me - I am now officially British (and I still retain my EU passport too) :-)
Had it not been for Brexit, I probably wouldn't have bothered, given that I've spent close to 2000 on the process, but actually I'm pretty happy to be officially British now. I finally get to vote for parliament, and I don't run the risk of getting chucked out of the country for being a foreigner by some future government.
Had it not been for Brexit, I probably wouldn't have bothered, given that I've spent close to 2000 on the process, but actually I'm pretty happy to be officially British now. I finally get to vote for parliament, and I don't run the risk of getting chucked out of the country for being a foreigner by some future government.
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Some personal good Brexit related news for me - I am now officially British (and I still retain my EU passport too) :-)
Had it not been for Brexit, I probably wouldn't have bothered, given that I've spent close to 2000 on the process, but actually I'm pretty happy to be officially British now. I finally get to vote for parliament, and I don't run the risk of getting chucked out of the country for being a foreigner by some future government.
Had it not been for Brexit, I probably wouldn't have bothered, given that I've spent close to 2000 on the process, but actually I'm pretty happy to be officially British now. I finally get to vote for parliament, and I don't run the risk of getting chucked out of the country for being a foreigner by some future government.
Btw. did you happen to see the price for an Australian passport? 😄
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