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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by urban
It'll gum you to death then, even more scary.
Anyone who has been gummed before will know the true horror of this threat !
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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DoZZa
Dogs are awesome creatures. I personally love dogs, and cats. And I have both.
...and all animals are unpredictable and therefore, we, as humans, should be careful.

I had my Rubix the fat cat playing with me one day in May this year. Actually, it was the other way round. Now we do allow them to play fight with our hands, but that day, my too much messing with relaxing Rubix taught me a lesson. All he wanted was to relax and I was acting dead affectionate with him after waking up from my unusually taken siesta one afternoon due to me feeling a bit under the weather. He's usually very positively responsive but I think he felt seriously moidered with me for suffocating him, so he slapped me one. His paw went straight into my right eye. I got up like a shot and thought I was bleeding buckets. Upon checking, there was no bleeding but a slight scratch on the white bit of my eye. I washed my eye and thought that the pain would fade by itself soon but by Jove, I was in agony by midnight and I had to attend the A&E. I got told there that good job I got it medically attended because the cats claw scratch in the eye could lead to permanent blindness. Apparently they have some natural poison in their claws to execute the deed. I got the treatment and I didn't go blind, but the fact (already stated before, on this thread) I'm supporting is that no animal can be taken for granted. Not even our fluffy, innocent looking, affectionate small cats.

People asked me if I gave an eye for an eye to Rubix for causing such an injury on me. Of course I didn't batter him. I cursed myself for being so obnoxious that my cat had to resort to telling me to p1$$ off by slapping me one.

Edited to add: Humans can also be unpredictable. They shouldn't be taken for granted either.

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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
There are 200,000 injuries annually caused by DIY in the uk

There were 1732 road deaths and a total of 186,209 casualties of all severities caused by road accidents in 2015.

Top trumped you. Lets ban DIY and cars.

Hardly a valid response as these are accidents and not deliberate acts. Are you suggesting dogs kill and injure people accidentally?
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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Paben
Hardly a valid response as these are accidents and not deliberate acts. Are you suggesting dogs kill and injure people accidentally?
Entirley possible, we are talking entirely different worlds here.
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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Paben
Hardly a valid response as these are accidents and not deliberate acts. Are you suggesting dogs kill and injure people accidentally?
Can an animal even commit an accident ??

Are YOU suggesting every Dog attack is deliberate ??
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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
Can an animal even commit an accident ??

Are YOU suggesting every Dog attack is deliberate ??

What do you think? If you believe an animal can't 'commit' an accident (why?) then it must follow that all their actions are deliberate. You can't have it both ways.
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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
Entirley possible, we are talking entirely different worlds here.

Explain
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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Paben
What do you think? If you believe an animal can't 'commit' an accident (why?) then it must follow that all their actions are deliberate. You can't have it both ways.
I dunno, next time you meet a dog ask it,

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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
I dunno, next time you meet a dog ask it,


Ah, so you think dogs can talk. That explains a lot
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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Paben
Ah, so you think dogs can talk. That explains a lot
NO but would make your enquiries much easier,

Hey dog, why did you eat the baby ??

Dog- Tastes better than that crap out the tin.

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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Paben
Hardly a valid response as these are accidents and not deliberate acts. Are you suggesting dogs kill and injure people accidentally?
Yes it it. You claim dogs are unpredictable, and therefore children must be kept away (meaning both Dogs and children never interact and become used to each other)

Our roads are unpredictable, as you never know when someone might lose control of their vehicle, and cause serious trauma.

Therefore, to eliminate any such incidents, Children must be kept out of cars, as statistically they are far more likely to be injured or killed while travelling in a car.
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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
Yes it it. You claim dogs are unpredictable, and therefore children must be kept away (meaning both Dogs and children never interact and become used to each other)

Our roads are unpredictable, as you never know when someone might lose control of their vehicle, and cause serious trauma.

Therefore, to eliminate any such incidents, Children must be kept out of cars, as statistically they are far more likely to be injured or killed while travelling in a car.

What on earth has a car crash got to do with dogs? A 3 year old child has just been killed by a dog, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't driving a car. I quite enjoy a reasoned argument, even on SNet, but this has descended into total farce.
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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 05:15 PM
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Just be safe and have a gold fish.........
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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Rpschesterfield
Just be safe and have a gold fish.........
+1 totally agree
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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 05:33 PM
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I honestly don't know if Paben is trolling, genuinely, as his points sound so daft. "A dog should never be allowed in a house if there are kids inside as well." Good one.
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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Paben
What on earth has a car crash got to do with dogs? A 3 year old child has just been killed by a dog, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't driving a car. I quite enjoy a reasoned argument, even on SNet, but this has descended into total farce.
You claimed dogs were unpredictable, so should be kept away from Children.

I said drivers of cars are unpredictable, and cause far more injuries than dogs do, so therefore to protect children, they should be kept away from cars.

If you can't understand that, maybe I should explain it to a dog, and he can Woof it to you.
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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by LSherratt
I honestly don't know if Paben is trolling, genuinely, as his points sound so daft. "A dog should never be allowed in a house if there are kids inside as well." Good one.
Right, but then anyone who responds to a post about gun violence or gun control with the ridiculous cliche that "guns don't kill people, people do" deserves to be trolled.
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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by markjmd
Right, but then anyone who responds to a post about gun violence or gun control with the ridiculous cliche that "guns don't kill people, people do" deserves to be trolled.
How would you even begin to ban guns in a place were there are more guns than people
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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Paben
Explain
Well you're assuming that dogs only bite to injure/kill. It's entirely possible that it's more intended as a shove in the chest and telling someone to **** off.
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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 07:40 PM
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What about a dog that uses a gun on its victims??

Did u ever think about that .. no cos u only think about yourself lol
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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Humans can also be unpredictable. They shouldn't be taken for granted either.
You can say that again, just take a look around at some of the puerile comments in this thread.
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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DoZZa
Whatever shes told to do! Shes a good dog.


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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy
How would you even begin to ban guns in a place were there are more guns than people
If you read my post carefully, you'll notice I made no mention at all of whether I think gun control is a good or bad thing, let alone whether banning them all would be.
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Old Aug 22, 2016 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by markjmd
If you read my post carefully, you'll notice I made no mention at all of whether I think gun control is a good or bad thing, let alone whether banning them all would be.
Another human riddle
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lol, yes, that pretty much sums up our dog!
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Originally Posted by urban
She'll gum you to death then, even more scary.
She's a she, not an IT! lol
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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DoZZa
She's a she, not an IT! lol
Technically she's a bitch then
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Old Aug 23, 2016 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by urban
Technically she's a bitch then
Technically, yes! And she can be a stubborn bitch at times too!
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Old Aug 24, 2016 | 03:23 PM
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The human race is intrinsically "dumb". And for as long as it continues to be "dumb", sadly, children (and the occasional adult) will continue to be maimed and killed by dogs.

There is a lot of nonsense being spouted on this thread about dog behavior, particularly that they are unpredictable wild animals.

I see that the dog bite stats are being posted. Bites and "maulings to death" are quite different behaviors.

Anyone with half an ounce of understanding of dog behavior will know that the vast majority of dog bites are down to people not understanding all of the warning signs before the bite finally comes. That bite is generally a last resort response from the dog, and contrary to some of the nonsense posted on here is a pretty predictable response at that. Its not the involuntary and unpredictable act of a genetically programmed hunter resorting to its natural wild state.

Unfortunately dogs can't say "ffs stop that, you're pi55ing me right off". Their response behaviors are more limited.

Dog maulings and the more prolonged attacks are a different behavior, and one more likely to have been heavily influenced by inappropriate or intentional training of those behaviors. Dogs are natural scavengers, not hunters. They have sharp teeth because they are carnivores. Hunting and fighting dogs are bred-in breed traits. Studies now conclude that dogs and wolves evolved separately from a common ancestor, not that dogs evolved from wolves.

What we need (as always) is for people to be better educated in dog behavior. We teach (or at least should) children the dangers of crossing a road, or talking to strangers. But how many of us take the time to understand what is likely to make a dog bite?

Having said all of that, I agree with the OP that the owners (or more specifically those that have taken inadequate care to prevent tragic events such as the one which prompted this thread) should be heavily penalised for allowing this to happen. If my dog bit anyone (or worse) and that was due to my ignorance or lack of care and attention, I'd accept responsibility for that.

If, however, some random child runs up to a dog and teases it to the point of getting bitten, then my sympathy lies with the dog and its owners.
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Old Aug 24, 2016 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Devildog
The human race is intrinsically "dumb". And for as long as it continues to be "dumb", sadly, children (and the occasional adult) will continue to be maimed and killed by dogs.

There is a lot of nonsense being spouted on this thread about dog behavior, particularly that they are unpredictable wild animals.

I see that the dog bite stats are being posted. Bites and "maulings to death" are quite different behaviors.

Anyone with half an ounce of understanding of dog behavior will know that the vast majority of dog bites are down to people not understanding all of the warning signs before the bite finally comes. That bite is generally a last resort response from the dog, and contrary to some of the nonsense posted on here is a pretty predictable response at that. Its not the involuntary and unpredictable act of a genetically programmed hunter resorting to its natural wild state.

Unfortunately dogs can't say "ffs stop that, you're pi55ing me right off". Their response behaviors are more limited.

Dog maulings and the more prolonged attacks are a different behavior, and one more likely to have been heavily influenced by inappropriate or intentional training of those behaviors. Dogs are natural scavengers, not hunters. They have sharp teeth because they are carnivores. Hunting and fighting dogs are bred-in breed traits. Studies now conclude that dogs and wolves evolved separately from a common ancestor, not that dogs evolved from wolves.

What we need (as always) is for people to be better educated in dog behavior. We teach (or at least should) children the dangers of crossing a road, or talking to strangers. But how many of us take the time to understand what is likely to make a dog bite?

Having said all of that, I agree with the OP that the owners (or more specifically those that have taken inadequate care to prevent tragic events such as the one which prompted this thread) should be heavily penalised for allowing this to happen. If my dog bit anyone (or worse) and that was due to my ignorance or lack of care and attention, I'd accept responsibility for that.

If, however, some random child runs up to a dog and teases it to the point of getting bitten, then my sympathy lies with the dog and its owners.


Very well said indeed.
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