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Old 01 May 2015, 03:47 PM
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Blimey! Thought we were just debating couple of fast shopping trollies! lol
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And replied

And for the benefit of the member who wasted some time to find "Steve the carpet salesman" and sent Mattee a PM, whoever "Steve" is is going to be extremely confused when you ask him about Devildog on Scoobynet
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Thought Devildog was a panda!!!
Old 01 May 2015, 04:20 PM
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Exactly

I mean, FFS "not as smart as he thinks he is from Glasgow" - its there for all to see
Old 01 May 2015, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryanj1993
Its the torque steer that put me off the RS, constantly wanting to change lanes, hardly confidence inspiring.

I do miss RWD tho, my 350z was a dream down the B roads
Really
I'm on my 2nd mk2 and I'm not exactly miss daisy , my first was standard and this next one is a 350 one....neither have tried to drag me about.
I also had the mk1...that was running over 370 , now that one really did want to put you in a ditch, I actually ruined the car taking it up that far.

I don't agree with your mk2 comment though
Old 02 May 2015, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Our driving is either fairly local blasts or trips to Bristol or London (the latter are currently quite frequent) for work.
So the car needs to be quick, fun but also cover 550 miles in a day without issues - the M135i is just comfortable enough for the long drives but still a hoot on back roads - I also fear that we won't see a six pot RWD hatch ever again so I'm clinging onto this a little.

However we had a meet again this weekend; this isn't big headed (well maybe a little) but I'm comfortably the quickest driver and always way ahead - on the very tight, twisty lanes on far West Cornwall, I did slightly run out of car for the first time - on the really right bends the inner wheel was slipping; an LSD would have been handy. And the throttle response cold have been sharper - but to get this I'd need something like an Exige or Cayman which would be useless 98% of the time. It was only a tiny ***** and on faster back roads it's brilliant but it was interesting finding and breaching it's limits. The others (way behind) were completely oblivious and all very happy.

Stick and LSD on it (£2k), stick coil-overs on and add a JB4 box and you have a total weapon of a car - many are now seeing well over 420bhp and 510kb lbs-ft in them!

And just out of frame there all naked oiling each other up lol...

Looks good ( the cars not the oiling up )
Old 02 May 2015, 09:49 AM
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Cheers Ted - we did look like bloody idiots all lining our cars up in various locations... But the driving bit was great fun.

Any A45 meets been had?
Old 02 May 2015, 10:22 AM
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The southern lot have yeah, but I'd prefer to have an inbred Scooby meet feel more at home here... And we all just turn in up in anything lol
Old 02 May 2015, 01:08 PM
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Whilst I appreciate we don't buy these types of cars to scrimp on fuel, it continues to amaze me how fuel efficient the set-up can be though.

I went to see my brother yesterday who lives in Birmingham, which from me means I use the M1/M6 route into Brum, as the majority of the journey travelled. The M6 is pretty dog ****e, as we all know, which be quite stop start around the city.

Anyway....

This is what the car achieved on the way over, although traffic was quite bad so not high speed really:

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This was once I got back home. With the return journey being much freer of traffic:

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I honestly never adjusted my driving to achieve good MPG. I just drove sensibly, but did maintain COMFORT mode on the gearbox, apart from a few blasts in town.

If I had nailed it the MPG would have dropped drastically from these figures, but when just taking it easy and driving normally, I still can't believe how economical these cars can be.
Old 02 May 2015, 01:13 PM
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Pretty amazing!
We often see mid to high 30s too; our 320bhp (more like 340 when run in) sub1500kg hatch is better on fuel than our 165bhp 1500kg estate.

Don't think we've quite hit over 40 though!
Old 03 May 2015, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by donny andi
Really
I'm on my 2nd mk2 and I'm not exactly miss daisy , my first was standard and this next one is a 350 one....neither have tried to drag me about.
I also had the mk1...that was running over 370 , now that one really did want to put you in a ditch, I actually ruined the car taking it up that far.

I don't agree with your mk2 comment though
this was a 400 hp one, the same power i want in my hatch, and it did try to kill me, you don't have to agree, thats why its an opinion.
Old 04 May 2015, 08:22 AM
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Im not quite sure how this became a personal slagging match but hey ho.
Today i shall be driving the 90 min drive to Oulton Park with my kids in my A45 and i know i will love every minute of it. Do i regret selling my RS? Kind of but i couldnt afford to keep it as a weekend toy. Will i regret not buying the RS3? Only time will tell
Old 04 May 2015, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryanj1993
this was a 400 hp one, the same power i want in my hatch, and it did try to kill me, you don't have to agree, thats why its an opinion.
Former MK2 owner here (ran it for 2.5yrs standard other than mongoose catback and Eibach springs) and there was torque steer up to 4th if you boot it. As Ryan says sometimes it can be downright scarey. Even a gentle overtake and crossing the cats eyes would pull on the steering wheel - I doubt its just torque so possibly the downside of the revoknuckle). Anything other than flat dry tarmac and you have issues putting the power down - in the wet forget about it even with Michelin PSS's and a torque mount. Anyone who says otherwise either is not trying hard enough or is in denial. I am pretty sure even my X3 30d would leave an RS off the lights purely due to AWD and a better gearbox. On track the RS with decent tarmac the RS does come into its own but out in the real world of bumpy uneven roads its not good.

The new generation of hatches have simply raised the bar and have realised AWD is the way forward which the RS should have always had IMHO. The excuse was always oh but it would cost more - when in reality VW have priced the Golf R at not much more than the Focus - even less so when you add the must have 1/2 leather recaro's, LUX 2 and BT/USB options to the Focus. At least Ford have seen the light but now we lose the 5 pot soundtrack which was the main reason I bought one tbh.
Old 04 May 2015, 08:43 AM
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My RS running 350bhp was a real handful in the wet. Smooth dry tarmac it was superb
Old 04 May 2015, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by P1Fanatic
Former MK2 owner here (ran it for 2.5yrs standard other than mongoose catback and Eibach springs) and there was torque steer up to 4th if you boot it. As Ryan says sometimes it can be downright scarey. Even a gentle overtake and crossing the cats eyes would pull on the steering wheel - I doubt its just torque so possibly the downside of the revoknuckle). Anything other than flat dry tarmac and you have issues putting the power down - in the wet forget about it even with Michelin PSS's and a torque mount. Anyone who says otherwise either is not trying hard enough or is in denial. I am pretty sure even my X3 30d would leave an RS off the lights purely due to AWD and a better gearbox. On track the RS with decent tarmac the RS does come into its own but out in the real world of bumpy uneven roads its not good.

The new generation of hatches have simply raised the bar and have realised AWD is the way forward which the RS should have always had IMHO. The excuse was always oh but it would cost more - when in reality VW have priced the Golf R at not much more than the Focus - even less so when you add the must have 1/2 leather recaro's, LUX 2 and BT/USB options to the Focus. At least Ford have seen the light but now we lose the 5 pot soundtrack which was the main reason I bought one tbh.
I had a similar conversation on Facebook in the RS owners section regarding the MK1 FRS when someone was asking for buying advice.
I owned one for 2 years from new. And on smooth tarmac is was brilliant, but overtaking on bumpy camber ridden back roads could be a heart in mouth process.

I may have said the FRS was a pile of sh1te and everyone who drives one is a complete wa.nker, as I got quite a bit of negative comments, mainly saying I don't know how to drive! Yet I bet every owner does experience the Torque steer, and either they don't want admit this, or they always drive on nice smooth roads.

I decide to trade mine in for a new 2005 STI PPP, after I got burned off by some woman in a VW Passat TDI on a very bumpy back road. Where she could happily overtake, I just couldn't for fear of side swiping the car I wanted to overtake.

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Old 04 May 2015, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
However we had a meet again this weekend; this isn't big headed (well maybe a little) but I'm comfortably the quickest driver and always way ahead
Shame the webclown blog is not still going.......he would of had a field day with this lol
Old 04 May 2015, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mrtheedge2u2
Shame the webclown blog is not still going.......he would of had a field day with this lol
Why?
Old 04 May 2015, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Why?
No offence Mattee, but come on
Old 04 May 2015, 10:37 PM
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Sorry lads but forget the new STi...I own a 10 year old WR1 And that new Merc can't outgun this old girl..... So if you think that Subaru has lost its way maybe with the new car but don't forget the older Subarus can hold there own against this modern technology, I'm sure the CS400 Cosworth amongst the STI range would leave this German engineering for dead....

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Originally Posted by GMC75
Sorry lads but forget the new STi...I own a 10 year old WR1 And that new Merc can't outgun this old girl..... So if you think that Subaru has lost its way maybe with the new car but don't forget the older Subarus can hold there own against this modern technology, I'm sure the CS400 Cosworth amongst the STI range would leave this German engineering for dead....
And when you wake up and are back in the real world maybe you can embrace the truth!

The A45 is a clear 2s quicker to 100 than your WR1 unless you have modded it!
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
And when you wake up and are back in the real world maybe you can embrace the truth!

The A45 is a clear 2s quicker to 100 than your WR1 unless you have modded it!
Standard WR1. Embrace the truth? Sorry mate but the truth hurts doesn't it! must have been dreaming then.

So the extra 40hp or so the A45 has is going to be 2 seconds quicker to 100? Now who lives in cloud cuckoo land, Ffs! Well this Amg didn't have that kind of pace for sure..... both evenly matched bar the price of the car and the shock on the ***** face........priceless!

Both sets of figures on paper have the AMG at 4.6 to 60 and 10.6 to 100 the WR1 to 60 4.25 and 10.67 to 100 evenly matched on paper and sorry to say on the Tarmac to. The only differerence is a gap of 10 years and 2 seconds quicker if you say so? Not much in it then for the new car on the block. Not worth the £38000 price tag for 2 seconds quicker in my opinion.... unless Im still dreaming...................

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Old 05 May 2015, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
No offence Mattee, but come on
I do lament the closing of that blog. It was very funny.......as I am sure even Mattee acknowledges
Old 05 May 2015, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by GMC75
Standard WR1. Embrace the truth? Sorry mate but the truth hurts doesn't it! must have been dreaming then.

So the extra 40hp or so the A45 has is going to be 2 seconds quicker to 100? Now who lives in cloud cuckoo land, Ffs! Well this Amg didn't have that kind of pace for sure..... both evenly matched bar the price of the car and the shock on the ***** face........priceless!

Both sets of figures on paper have the AMG at 4.6 to 60 and 10.6 to 100 the WR1 to 60 4.25 and 10.67 to 100 evenly matched on paper and sorry to say on the Tarmac to. The only differerence is a gap of 10 years and 2 seconds quicker if you say so? Not much in it then for the new car on the block. Not worth the £38000 price tag for 2 seconds quicker in my opinion.... unless Im still dreaming...................
Oh FFS yet another deluded Impreza driver. Your 10 year old STI, for that is what a WR1 is, is a 12.5 second 0-100mph car at best and only a smidge less with PPP. That's real test times not fantasy land owner figures like yours. 10.67s

Add in a more modern car design with better traction and less transmission losses and I reckon the A45 will be nearer 3s quicker in the real world.

Time has moved on, your car is yesterday's tech as is mine. The difference is I can accept it!
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Originally Posted by mrtheedge2u2
I do lament the closing of that blog. It was very funny.......as I am sure even Mattee acknowledges
Yes it was excellent, a pity it's not preserved somewhere.
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Oh FFS yet another deluded Impreza driver. Your 10 year old STI, for that is what a WR1 is, is a 12.5 second 0-100mph car at best and only a smidge less with PPP. That's real test times not fantasy land owner figures like yours. 10.67s

Add in a more modern car design with better traction and less transmission losses and I reckon the A45 will be nearer 3s quicker in the real world.

Time has moved on, your car is yesterday's tech as is mine. The difference is I can accept it!
Yes a 10 year old STI, Yes technology has moved on, but the proof was in the pudding or on the tarmac, that Merc AMG doesnt have the power to pass, keep up, yes and thats it! If that AMG as you state from facts and figures not fanatsy land owner figures 3s quicker in the real world? that car would have gone passed my old Impreza and my deluded brain would have accepted defeat
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Originally Posted by GMC75
Yes a 10 year old STI, Yes technology has moved on, but the proof was in the pudding or on the tarmac, that Merc AMG doesnt have the power to pass, keep up, yes and thats it! If that AMG as you state from facts and figures not fanatsy land owner figures 3s quicker in the real world? that car would have gone passed my old Impreza and my deluded brain would have accepted defeat
So you have 'raced' one of these A45s then? Is that what you are saying?

You also claim a 10.67s 0 - 100mph time, prove it.

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The point is the Mercedes is an easily accessible package , that's it !
, that's what you pay your money for

I'm warming to the looks a bit
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More bad news for the guy with the 'magic' WR1! Shaun (the OP) has managed an 8.75s run to 100mph in his A45 with a tuning box, but that was with a poor getaway.... I think he'll be long gone with decent traction. Oh that was a real run not one made up in his head like our friend above
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
No offence Mattee, but come on
Do I need proof again like the races I've won?
I'm a well trained, fairly good driver and the others acknowledge I'm quicker than them; we all have the same car; it's hardly a massive boast.
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Do I need proof again like the races I've won?
I'm a well trained, fairly good driver and the others acknowledge I'm quicker than them; we all have the same car; it's hardly a massive boast.
Mattee, it's not the truth that matters and I have no reason to doubt you, but it is just the way you say it. Don't take offence as I am not having a pop, the forum is a better place with your posts mate and I am glad to see you back


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