Is that because the difference in opinions in this Election thread has descended to the school playground level personal attack exchanges? Nothing new there, don't waste the bullets, not worth your shots.

 

The real Dingodangly and the imaginary doctor one?

 

It's no different to what's happening with the election campaigns of the main parties, they're all slagging each other off.

The policies banded about by all parties play on people's fears and are little more than politics of populism and rhetoric; a rail against the well of, a rail against immigration, rail against Europe, what the other parties aren't doing or have done, etc etc, it's all negative.

 

I find all the slagging off very unprofessional and embarasing TBH, these people are behaving like low life plebs on the street or kids in a playground.

 

It's the way politics works though, if they all acted professionally then more people would realise how little actual substance there is.

 

This one seems worse than normal though Neil, today's politicians are an embarrassment to the UK.

 

We've had the door knockers going round.

I've made my voting intentions quite clear:

Whoever will remove the TPO order on my tree so I can properly prune it will get my vote. Stumps them everytime (no pun )

 

You've just got to look at the people involved to see why, you've got Cameron the rich kid and his sidekick Biggles (Clegg for those that couldn't figure it out). Milliband the class geek and Farage the playground bully.

 

Sure, election season potentially brings about off and on line political hooliganism. Our resident self-nominated informal campaigners and their faithful followers get a bit too excited with copying the real life campaigners here, and resort to much worse personal insults towards the ones with strong opposite views. As RA Dunk says, ugly show there by the real life campaigners, and much uglier show here by such invisible keyboard ninja campaigners here. Truly speaking, personal attacks and mud slinging between some, at any opportunity whatsoever is a usual occurance here, election or no election. Election is just an excuse.

 

Out of curiosity just how many of you will be voting?.............what annoys me is people who complain about the government etc but don't vote - you cant change anything if you do not vote and you haven't the right to complain if you don't.

 

I think a lot of people from here will vote. They may not tell who they'll vote, though. That could be because of their fear of the trail of trolls following them, to insult their leaning and judgement with personal insults. Such discussions aren't just 'heated' discussions, because heated discussions with valid logic and the allowance to the freedom to personal preference, even to vote or not to vote, can be done without throwing personal insults at one another. Discussions with personal insults are not just 'heated' but scumbaggish, low life and chavvy discussions where some trolls just throw their weight around on line for their ego satisfaction.

So yeah, I bet the majority from here will vote. I certainly will.

 

I wont vote.

 

This sort of stupid statement always annoys me. If there is no one worthy of your vote why should you vote? I want a 'they are all liars and none of them are worth my vote' box on the ballot paper. Then I will have a box to tick! Until then I won't be voting!

 

Problem is you will never get that box to tick so pick the best if the **** and don't moan when it doesn't go your way

 

Just go and write "fvck you all" on the ballot paper

It will be recorded as a spoilt ballot


Make a positive negative statement


I think that is the point - the "arm chair" critics are a bit irritating

 

Just spoil your ballot. At least then you won't be classed as one of the feckless 40% of the country who can't be arsed for whatever reason.

 

You have a right to choose not to vote, you have every right to complain if you think there all a dodgy bunch not worth voting for.

Abstention does not mean not giving a toss

 

But the only person who actually sees your 'positive negative statement' is the poor bugger who's got to count the votes. All the people in power see is a meaningless statistic that says 7% (for example) spoiled their ballot papers.

 

You do have the right not to vote, but apathy counts for nothing, it doesn't separate you from those who feel there are no suitable candidates and those who are lazy ******* who can't be arsed.

In the last GE, there were nearly 300,000 protest votes, so they are counted and made up 1% of those who bothered to vote. 34% of registered voters couldn't be arsed to exercise their right to vote. If those 34% had spoiled their ballot paper, that would have made a significant impact and sent a message to the politicians of how a huge chunk of registered voters feel.

If you can't be arsed to register your vote at the ballot box, then really you have no right to whinge about how hard done by or disconnected you feel. A spoilt ballot paper represents how you feel about the politicians, apathy registers nothing and will never enact a change.

 

Like the politicians give a **** about how any of the voters feel. Once they are elected they renege on their promises and line their pockets for another 5 years!

Instead of denigrating those who don't vote why not answer the points I brought up about your favourite party's failed promises in the last 5 years? I only listed three and have plenty more if you would like them

 

I didn't vote Conservative because of immigration and Leveson wasn't in their manifesto. I voted Conservative as the best party to handle the economy. On deficit reduction, I accept that they didn't reduce deficit enough to start paying off the debt, but then, whilst I didn't agree with the course of action taken, we've had to militarily intervene in Libya and Syria and also deal with the increasing demand from the ailing EU economy. Neither of which could have been predicted and certainly impacted Osborne's deficit reduction plan.

But from the depths of the massive recession that hit the UK, I believed the Conservative's economic policies overall was the best plan and were and still the best party in boosting the UK economy. And I'll judge them on what I voted them for; the UK economy as been in recovery since 2013 and currently stands head and shoulders above all our European counterparts.

I still stand by what I believe, if you can't be arsed to go to the polling station then you really have no right to complain and you'll never really know whether it'll enact a change or not as you join the self defeating apathy.

 

and??

that % figure represents people who took the time and effort to go to a polling station and give a metaphoric "fvck you all"

because they did not feel a connection with any political party etc

if enough people did they would take some notice

doing nothing accomplishes nothing

 

Two questions

1. What's your answer on who I should vote for then?

2. You have openly published you are more aligned to UKIP and the Tories so why aren't you voting for them?

PS Little point debating the rest of your posts as your head is in the sand like most Tory voters!

 

1. I can't tell you who you should vote for, it wouldn't be democratic! If you feel that none of the parties represents your views, then you could protest by spoiling your ballot paper. If 34% of the non voting electorate did this, the politicians and the media will take notice. You frequently shown your great disdain towards our politicians on this forum, but not enough to make a protest at the ballot box?

2. Who said I wasn't voting for UKIP? The poll was taken for a bit of fun, but whilst there are some truths to it, the percentage is still small enough within a margin of error. Come election day, I will make my vote, UKIP and the Conservatives have until then to get my vote.

ps. I'm open to debate, if there is little point in debating the rest, well then it's your head, not mine that is in the sand!

 

Which bit of the politicians won't take any notice did you miss in my post?

No it is definitely your head in the sane. You are only thinking about yourself and in the short term, I am talking about the country and in the long term. Then again I guess that is the difference between Tories and socialists

 

Do what you like, but Noel Gallagher style voting is also an option:


Source: http://thequietus.com/articles/17242...irds-interview

 

You have no way of knowing whether politicians/media will take notice or not if there was a significant number of spoiled ballot papers. Clearly you aren't willing to make the effort to find out, that is apathy for you. Anyway, thanks for your contribution.

 

Noel Gallagher is a legend, he is of course form the greatest city in the UK and a lot more intelligent than most people (generally Southerners) give him credit for.

Trouble is the most ludicrous thing on my ballot paper is a dead heat between the Tories and the Labour Party and I ain't voting for either of them!

 

Yeah of course we have no way of knowing... I mean it's not as if they have a track record of not taking any notice of public opinion is it? FFS I knew I shouldn't have wasted my time engaging you

 

So you keep saying, but you just can't help yourself can you.

The results of the Eastleigh by-election in 2013 was certainly noticed by the Conservatives and by all the other parties. Public opinion can and does cause governments to take notice.