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03 March 2015, 10:35 AM
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think I read a cpl pages back the car has mods on it & was described as a stock unmolested example .?
Could the lad not use this as grounds for false advertising IE
I put a deposit down as the car is stock , after driving & inspecting it , it clearly isn't .
Oh & they took my deposit before I was allowed to drive it
Just a thought
Could the lad not use this as grounds for false advertising IE
I put a deposit down as the car is stock , after driving & inspecting it , it clearly isn't .
Oh & they took my deposit before I was allowed to drive it
Just a thought
03 March 2015, 10:35 AM
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think I read a cpl pages back the car has mods on it & was described as a stock unmolested example .?
Could the lad not use this as grounds for false advertising IE
I put a deposit down as the car is stock , after driving & inspecting it , it clearly isn't .
Oh & they took my deposit before I was allowed to drive it
Just a thought
Could the lad not use this as grounds for false advertising IE
I put a deposit down as the car is stock , after driving & inspecting it , it clearly isn't .
Oh & they took my deposit before I was allowed to drive it
Just a thought
03 March 2015, 10:41 AM
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Its funny how opinions have divided so drastically.
If someone can tell my why i'm not entitled to a refund and back it up with a FACT then i'm happy to hold my hands up, walk away and never contact the garage again.
Until I have proof that I am not entitled to a refund then I'll continue to pursue this.
03 March 2015, 10:44 AM
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You sir, are thinking along the same lines as me
Its funny how opinions have divided so drastically.
If someone can tell my why i'm not entitled to a refund and back it up with a FACT then i'm happy to hold my hands up, walk away and never contact the garage again.
Until I have proof that I am not entitled to a refund then I'll continue to pursue this.
Its funny how opinions have divided so drastically.
If someone can tell my why i'm not entitled to a refund and back it up with a FACT then i'm happy to hold my hands up, walk away and never contact the garage again.
Until I have proof that I am not entitled to a refund then I'll continue to pursue this.
Harder to get insurance with modifications, so, cant buy the car. No fault of yours as the dealer advertised it wrongly to you, and you are not a mechanic.
03 March 2015, 10:49 AM
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The OP viewed and inspected the car by his own admission, the mods (if you can call them that) are hardly detrimental to the car.
Technically yes, you could say the car is mis described, but he didn't buy the car blindly over the phone then when it arrived its a different colour.
The fact remains, apart from a few easily reversible mods which the OP could clearly see when he viewed there is no evidence to say the car has anything wrong with it.
If I found myself in a similar situation I would of course get nervous if I subsequently heard bad stories about them, I probably would politely ask for my deposit back knowing full well I wasn't entitled to it. I would then walk away.
Technically yes, you could say the car is mis described, but he didn't buy the car blindly over the phone then when it arrived its a different colour.
The fact remains, apart from a few easily reversible mods which the OP could clearly see when he viewed there is no evidence to say the car has anything wrong with it.
If I found myself in a similar situation I would of course get nervous if I subsequently heard bad stories about them, I probably would politely ask for my deposit back knowing full well I wasn't entitled to it. I would then walk away.
03 March 2015, 10:50 AM
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There is little compassion on Scoobynet, and everyone has an arsehole , sorry opinion. Some valid, some as we have seen, not so valid. Joys of the internet, but sales of good act with undeclared modifications and advertised as standard, I think that is your winning claim.
Harder to get insurance with modifications, so, cant buy the car. No fault of yours as the dealer advertised it wrongly to you, and you are not a mechanic.
Harder to get insurance with modifications, so, cant buy the car. No fault of yours as the dealer advertised it wrongly to you, and you are not a mechanic.
I even offered for them to meet my half way and refund £250. I've wasted their time by pulling out, they've wasted my time by trying to sell me a car that subsequently isn't as described. They declined this on the basis that they wont because my decision to pull out is based on their reputation on Scoobynet (in the first instance, this is before I knew of the modifications).
They said had it been because of another reason then they would look to do something.
They really hate Scoobynet.
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03 March 2015, 10:53 AM
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The OP viewed and inspected the car by his own admission, the mods (if you can call them that) are hardly detrimental to the car.
Technically yes, you could say the car is mis described, but he didn't buy the car blindly over the phone then when it arrived its a different colour.
The fact remains, apart from a few easily reversible mods which the OP could clearly see when he viewed there is no evidence to say the car has anything wrong with it.
If I found myself in a similar situation I would of course get nervous if I subsequently heard bad stories about them, I probably would politely ask for my deposit back knowing full well I wasn't entitled to it. I would then walk away.
Technically yes, you could say the car is mis described, but he didn't buy the car blindly over the phone then when it arrived its a different colour.
The fact remains, apart from a few easily reversible mods which the OP could clearly see when he viewed there is no evidence to say the car has anything wrong with it.
If I found myself in a similar situation I would of course get nervous if I subsequently heard bad stories about them, I probably would politely ask for my deposit back knowing full well I wasn't entitled to it. I would then walk away.
Not sure why you can't accept this?
Indeed, coupled with no signature, no T&C's, no contract, no discussion surrounding non refundable etc etc etc I cant see how I'm in a bad position at all.
I even offered for them to meet my half way and refund £250. I've wasted their time by pulling out, they've wasted my time by trying to sell me a car that subsequently isn't as described. They declined this on the basis that they wont because my decision to pull out is based on their reputation on Scoobynet (in the first instance, this is before I knew of the modifications).
They said had it been because of another reason then they would look to do something.
The really hate Scoobynet.
I even offered for them to meet my half way and refund £250. I've wasted their time by pulling out, they've wasted my time by trying to sell me a car that subsequently isn't as described. They declined this on the basis that they wont because my decision to pull out is based on their reputation on Scoobynet (in the first instance, this is before I knew of the modifications).
They said had it been because of another reason then they would look to do something.
The really hate Scoobynet.
03 March 2015, 10:54 AM
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Isn't the law now that any history of a company can also be declared in court? lol.
03 March 2015, 11:09 AM
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Just phoned them and its still for sale apparently. But a £500 deposit would secure it!
May be I could mention this thread and ask them to take the £500 that has already been paid, off the asking price.
Me- 'Are the tyres is good condition?'
CP- 'They would pass an MOT'. (you could really tell how carefully he worded his answer
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Me- 'It says standard on the advert, but I see a strut brace, dumpvalve, light tints etc. What else isn't standard?'
CP- 'Only those bits are non-standard mate.
He didn't tell me anything about already receiving a deposit on it or this other interested party.
Even if I didn't know about CP's history, after that phone call alone, alarm bells would have been ringing.
May be I could mention this thread and ask them to take the £500 that has already been paid, off the asking price.
Me- 'Are the tyres is good condition?'
CP- 'They would pass an MOT'. (you could really tell how carefully he worded his answer
)Me- 'It says standard on the advert, but I see a strut brace, dumpvalve, light tints etc. What else isn't standard?'
CP- 'Only those bits are non-standard mate.
He didn't tell me anything about already receiving a deposit on it or this other interested party.
Even if I didn't know about CP's history, after that phone call alone, alarm bells would have been ringing.
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03 March 2015, 11:12 AM
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The OP could see low brake pads and tyres and know that a white one was rare but could not see an eBay strut brace 
I agree that the mis description could be a technical reason to get the deposit back which in this case would suit the OP.
I've booked and paid for a holiday before then foolishly searched trip advisor reviews afterwards, the hotel had so many bad reviews it was scary. Was I entitled to my money back? Nope. I took it on the chin, went and actually had a great time.
So just to clarify, the car has a few, easily reversible mods that have no effect on the car whatsoever, these were obvious in the pictures and obvious when viewing. The car drove perfectly as the OP confirmed.
He hasn't collected the car then found loads of unseen problems or accident damage, or found out it had 10 previous owners when the documents arrived.
He was perfectly happy to proceed with the purchase until others shed light on CP's history.
He's buying a car, not going into business with them..
I agree that the mis description could be a technical reason to get the deposit back which in this case would suit the OP.
I've booked and paid for a holiday before then foolishly searched trip advisor reviews afterwards, the hotel had so many bad reviews it was scary. Was I entitled to my money back? Nope. I took it on the chin, went and actually had a great time.
So just to clarify, the car has a few, easily reversible mods that have no effect on the car whatsoever, these were obvious in the pictures and obvious when viewing. The car drove perfectly as the OP confirmed.
He hasn't collected the car then found loads of unseen problems or accident damage, or found out it had 10 previous owners when the documents arrived.
He was perfectly happy to proceed with the purchase until others shed light on CP's history.
He's buying a car, not going into business with them..
03 March 2015, 11:16 AM
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The OP could see low brake pads and tyres and know that a white one was rare but could not see an eBay strut brace
No he is not a mechanic.
I agree that the mis description could be a technical reason to get the deposit back which in this case would suit the OP.
Exactly, so end of story really.
I've booked and paid for a holiday before then foolishly searched trip advisor reviews afterwards, the hotel had so many bad reviews it was scary. Was I entitled to my money back? Nope. I took it on the chin, went and actually had a great time.
If it was falsley advertised as having a pool and it didn't, yes you could.
So just to clarify, the car has a few, easily reversible mods that have no effect on the car whatsoever, these were obvious in the pictures and obvious when viewing. The car drove perfectly as the OP confirmed.
Makes no difference, reversible mods? OP wasnt aware of mods and could not get insured on a modified car. End of story.
He hasn't collected the car then found loads of unseen problems or accident damage, or found out it had 10 previous owners when the documents arrived.
Car wa wrongly advertised, this is the grounds for the refund.
He was perfectly happy to proceed with the purchase until others shed light on CP's history.
This is your opinion. OP found out he could not be insured on a modified car.
He's buying a car, not going into business with them..
Its a business transaction. You are entering into a contract.
No he is not a mechanic.
I agree that the mis description could be a technical reason to get the deposit back which in this case would suit the OP.
Exactly, so end of story really.
I've booked and paid for a holiday before then foolishly searched trip advisor reviews afterwards, the hotel had so many bad reviews it was scary. Was I entitled to my money back? Nope. I took it on the chin, went and actually had a great time.
If it was falsley advertised as having a pool and it didn't, yes you could.
So just to clarify, the car has a few, easily reversible mods that have no effect on the car whatsoever, these were obvious in the pictures and obvious when viewing. The car drove perfectly as the OP confirmed.
Makes no difference, reversible mods? OP wasnt aware of mods and could not get insured on a modified car. End of story.
He hasn't collected the car then found loads of unseen problems or accident damage, or found out it had 10 previous owners when the documents arrived.
Car wa wrongly advertised, this is the grounds for the refund.
He was perfectly happy to proceed with the purchase until others shed light on CP's history.
This is your opinion. OP found out he could not be insured on a modified car.
He's buying a car, not going into business with them..
Its a business transaction. You are entering into a contract.
03 March 2015, 11:33 AM
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The OP could see low brake pads and tyres and know that a white one was rare but could not see an eBay strut brace
No he is not a mechanic.
I agree that the mis description could be a technical reason to get the deposit back which in this case would suit the OP.
Exactly, so end of story really.
I've booked and paid for a holiday before then foolishly searched trip advisor reviews afterwards, the hotel had so many bad reviews it was scary. Was I entitled to my money back? Nope. I took it on the chin, went and actually had a great time.
If it was falsley advertised as having a pool and it didn't, yes you could.
So just to clarify, the car has a few, easily reversible mods that have no effect on the car whatsoever, these were obvious in the pictures and obvious when viewing. The car drove perfectly as the OP confirmed.
Makes no difference, reversible mods? OP wasnt aware of mods and could not get insured on a modified car. End of story.
He hasn't collected the car then found loads of unseen problems or accident damage, or found out it had 10 previous owners when the documents arrived.
Car wa wrongly advertised, this is the grounds for the refund.
He was perfectly happy to proceed with the purchase until others shed light on CP's history.
This is your opinion. OP found out he could not be insured on a modified car.
He's buying a car, not going into business with them..
Its a business transaction. You are entering into a contract.
No he is not a mechanic.
I agree that the mis description could be a technical reason to get the deposit back which in this case would suit the OP.
Exactly, so end of story really.
I've booked and paid for a holiday before then foolishly searched trip advisor reviews afterwards, the hotel had so many bad reviews it was scary. Was I entitled to my money back? Nope. I took it on the chin, went and actually had a great time.
If it was falsley advertised as having a pool and it didn't, yes you could.
So just to clarify, the car has a few, easily reversible mods that have no effect on the car whatsoever, these were obvious in the pictures and obvious when viewing. The car drove perfectly as the OP confirmed.
Makes no difference, reversible mods? OP wasnt aware of mods and could not get insured on a modified car. End of story.
He hasn't collected the car then found loads of unseen problems or accident damage, or found out it had 10 previous owners when the documents arrived.
Car wa wrongly advertised, this is the grounds for the refund.
He was perfectly happy to proceed with the purchase until others shed light on CP's history.
This is your opinion. OP found out he could not be insured on a modified car.
He's buying a car, not going into business with them..
Its a business transaction. You are entering into a contract.
The moral of the story really is do your research before parting with any cash. In an ideal world every retailer would give perfect service and sell perfect goods, but that just doesn't happen in real life, whether it be multinationals or backstreet garages.
03 March 2015, 11:33 AM
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Just spoken to CAB. Very helpful indeed.
I'm going to follow their advice as in their opinion they have breached the Sale of Goods Act 1979 by advertising the car as standard. It isnt.
I'm going to follow their advice as in their opinion they have breached the Sale of Goods Act 1979 by advertising the car as standard. It isnt.
03 March 2015, 11:35 AM
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The OP could see low brake pads and tyres and know that a white one was rare but could not see an eBay strut brace
No he is not a mechanic.
I agree that the mis description could be a technical reason to get the deposit back which in this case would suit the OP.
Exactly, so end of story really.
I've booked and paid for a holiday before then foolishly searched trip advisor reviews afterwards, the hotel had so many bad reviews it was scary. Was I entitled to my money back? Nope. I took it on the chin, went and actually had a great time.
If it was falsley advertised as having a pool and it didn't, yes you could.
So just to clarify, the car has a few, easily reversible mods that have no effect on the car whatsoever, these were obvious in the pictures and obvious when viewing. The car drove perfectly as the OP confirmed.
Makes no difference, reversible mods? OP wasnt aware of mods and could not get insured on a modified car. End of story.
He hasn't collected the car then found loads of unseen problems or accident damage, or found out it had 10 previous owners when the documents arrived.
Car wa wrongly advertised, this is the grounds for the refund.
He was perfectly happy to proceed with the purchase until others shed light on CP's history.
This is your opinion. OP found out he could not be insured on a modified car.
He's buying a car, not going into business with them..
Its a business transaction. You are entering into a contract.
No he is not a mechanic.
I agree that the mis description could be a technical reason to get the deposit back which in this case would suit the OP.
Exactly, so end of story really.
I've booked and paid for a holiday before then foolishly searched trip advisor reviews afterwards, the hotel had so many bad reviews it was scary. Was I entitled to my money back? Nope. I took it on the chin, went and actually had a great time.
If it was falsley advertised as having a pool and it didn't, yes you could.
So just to clarify, the car has a few, easily reversible mods that have no effect on the car whatsoever, these were obvious in the pictures and obvious when viewing. The car drove perfectly as the OP confirmed.
Makes no difference, reversible mods? OP wasnt aware of mods and could not get insured on a modified car. End of story.
He hasn't collected the car then found loads of unseen problems or accident damage, or found out it had 10 previous owners when the documents arrived.
Car wa wrongly advertised, this is the grounds for the refund.
He was perfectly happy to proceed with the purchase until others shed light on CP's history.
This is your opinion. OP found out he could not be insured on a modified car.
He's buying a car, not going into business with them..
Its a business transaction. You are entering into a contract.
And only now after this thread is he bothered about it because it will increase his already (his words) astronomical insurance premium? That in itself says all we need to know about this situation.
He jumped too quickly into a purchase that he did not fully understand and now he wants out once he realised the dealer has a bad rep and just how much the car was going to cost insure.
He hasn't been robbed, a gun wasn't too his head when he entered his pin number and was extremely gullible falling for their sales tactic.
But with the internet, there really is no excuse for not researching a seller these days. If you 'choose' not to, which is what he did, then you open yourself up or these sort of issues.
03 March 2015, 11:37 AM
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Just rang and spoke to ED at the garage to make it know that the reason I am pulling out of the transaction is because the vehicle isnt as described.
I said the car is not modified. He said it isnt and it is standard. Apparently the strut brace and dump valve are standard. He then terminated the call.
I said the car is not modified. He said it isnt and it is standard. Apparently the strut brace and dump valve are standard. He then terminated the call.
03 March 2015, 11:37 AM
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Keep us posted OP !
Only fifty quid to take them to Small Claims as well, which you will win...just be a bit of wait to get your money but will be nice that they have to cover court costs and if they dont pay you, you can escalate it to the High Court and get the Sheriffs round
03 March 2015, 11:37 AM
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Well let's agree to differ on this then.
The moral of the story really is do your research before parting with any cash. In an ideal world every retailer would give perfect service and sell perfect goods, but that just doesn't happen in real life, whether it be multinationals or backstreet garages.
The moral of the story really is do your research before parting with any cash. In an ideal world every retailer would give perfect service and sell perfect goods, but that just doesn't happen in real life, whether it be multinationals or backstreet garages.
03 March 2015, 11:47 AM
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I've just backed down as turning this into a slanging match is doing nobody any favours.
03 March 2015, 11:48 AM
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Fortunately for me, it turns out it isnt standard although I was told it was and its advertised as standard. This is a very good reason to pull out, and also falls foul of the Sales of Goods Act.
So he told me it was standard but then told you it was modified. He then tells me its standard.
Wish he would make his mind up
03 March 2015, 11:50 AM
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Mate, you are seriously missing the point here.
If you do take them to court, this thread will be your downfall. Especially with a statement like that!
I suggest you delete as much as you can, now! If you don't and somebody gets hold of this, prints it out and presents it at court, you will be paying out even more money.
If you do take them to court, this thread will be your downfall. Especially with a statement like that!
I suggest you delete as much as you can, now! If you don't and somebody gets hold of this, prints it out and presents it at court, you will be paying out even more money.
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