Deej

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This would be quite an elegant solution - interested to know what you're doing about the speedo?

Really great to read threads like this, certainly makes a change from the norm. If you want a hand with any of the electronics for the speedo I'd be more than happy to help. Although judging by your practical skills I doubt you'll need it anyway!

boosted

Thanks, with regard to the speedo, the impreza has a three wire hall and the audi has a two wire read switch, shouldn't be too much of a mission to get these to work together.
I have read that the impreza produces 4 pulses per rev, assuming it's revs of the speed sensor, the speed sensor turns once for every four revs of the prop (so wheel speed basically) the audi has four magnets on the output side of the front diff, so again four pulses per rev of the wheel (assuming I'm right about the imprezas sensor giving four pulses per rev)
A hall sea or having a Vref, earth and signal wires I am hoping to just connect to the Vref and signal through the reed switch and see if it works and how close it is.

Deej

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So does the audi box definitely have a reed switch sensor not a variable reluctance/VR sensor?

If so, I think the reed switch will need to go between the signal and earth wires. Hall sensors are used in an open collector arrangement which requires a pull-up resistor to get a voltage change at the output:



As long as both systems produce the same number of pulses per revolution it should work.

Deej

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This diagram is probably a bit more helpful:

boosted

Yeah apparently it's a reed switch, bizare I know. I will double check it with a meter once I've finished grinding and welding.
I'll take on board what your saying about the sig+earth, I'll poke the wires in those holes first, see what happens. Thanks

Deej

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No worries, nice to be able to contribute something useful for once!

ST AYE

Handy to know
If number of pulses/per rev is incorrect a cmos divider or multiplier circuit is cheap as chips and works well (in my experience), no need to go down the microcontroller route which is more costly and complex unless you can write the required code

Deej

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Agree with the above, nice easy solution as long as you are dividing/multiplying by an integer amount. If you were using a different differential ratio for example (i.e. not 4.11:1) you need to get a bit more creative - that's where a microcontroller can be handy.

boosted

Or I can always mount magnets on the driveshaft flanges and a hall sensor on the gearbox.
Any links to these controllers? Interested in the easiest/cheapest solution. Thanks

boosted

Last night I started to the exhaust, the rear silencer was almost a straight fit, only needing te front hanger dropped a little to clear the diff, this has in fact made my prodrive back box sit better, as the tailpipe was pointing down previously.
The centre section has been cut and will be welded in a slightly different position, to allow for the angle difference on the rear silencer. Front pipe needs similar modification just to clear the bottom of the gearbox, cut, twisted and welded. This has resulted in the exhaust being 1/2" closer to the ground, not really a problem as there is still miles of clearance on my car.
Hopefully have it welded/bolted on tonight, then it's just the starter and Intercooler to mount and it's ready for a startup and run through the gears in the air. Saturday should be the day

The Sheep Worrier

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Great news, well done, your flying along with it fair play.

boosted

Exhaust is done! That's all the lying on my back done.
Starter and pitch stop to do, hub nuts on, wheels on, intetcooler on, jobs a good un.

scoobygaz1

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Excellent news, glad its going all ok

mikeblackett

Good news, Can be a bit restrictive in movement working on a car under axle stands. Nearly there pal

ST AYE

These are cmos ic's, eg cd4011, cd4017 I work from data sheets. The cct is very simple just a couple of resistors and capacitors, no need to worry about voltage , the way I work with these is as follows, for tacho I use a timing light (or ecu data) to find correct rpm, then work out the correction factor and build circuit to suit for speedo I use a tomtom to get correct speed. Deej is correct that these will not work in all situations. I buy my components from Bitsbox, If you do have a problem and are struggling with the data sheets (which imho are about as clear as mud), pm me I will sort you out a cct diagram. Arduino (uno) is about the simplest microcontroller there is loads of info about for these, I am fairly new to micros myself and hopeless (very slow) at coding

boosted

Thanks, if I can't find a solution using the VAG sensor or a hall mounted on the box then I will be sure to get in contact with you! Very handy having someone like yourself on side.

swaynie

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Subscribed. If this is a massive success the value of STI 6spd kits will drop in value as this route seems cheaper and no issues of boxes ****ting themselves.

BrownPantsRacing

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This is a great conversion but I very much doubt it will effect the price of STI 6 speed boxes and conversion kits. The STI setup is far easier than this conversion, no real engineering required compared to this great job being done.

Keep up the fine work man!

If you make a conversion kit for these Aubaru systems then people may be interested.

boosted

Hi, I've no reason to believe that it will not work, however I can't ever see it being a replacement for the masses, it's just too much work to take on unless you can do it all yourself. However it may appeal to some people due to te act the audi box is potentially stronger than the sti 6 speed and has more ratio options.
I await someone else doing a conversion like this, but remember where you saw it first!

boosted

Thanks, I've not intention of making any kits, this was really just for myself, I enjoy this sort of thing and it won't be the last time I do something like it. I just thought I would share my work with some bad photos and lots of spelling mistakes...

BrownPantsRacing

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LOL

boosted

Well it's been a busy day, I've had my car up the road, speedo works but reads double(ish) clutch is fine, all gears select well, drives spot on.
I've got it back in the garage with the speed sensor ring out, going to make one with half the magnets to read closer to the correct mph. Other than that very happy with the progress

mikeblackett

Well done, All your hard work has come together

boosted

Yeah, I want the speedo reading correctly before I start driving it again, shouldn't be too much of a mission to do something

boosted

Here's the speedo ring, it has eight magnetic poles on it, going to make either a plastic or alu one and put five magnets in it, think that's where I need to be as the speedo was showing 100mph at about 60.
I'm just delighted it works, at least I can work with it now.

scoobyboy1

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Well done mate, really interesting read

Deej

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Nice one, I assume that you got the reed switch working with the subaru Hall sensor input then.

Does the speed sensor ring clip onto the rear output shaft of the gearbox?

Rick2014

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Have you got anymore pictures of the build

boosted

Yeah poked two wires in the earth and 5v and it worked first time. The other wire was showing 12v so I thought I would try the lowest voltage first. No smoke so alls well.
The sensor ring is on the front diff, driveshaft off, drive flange out and the side off the diff, oil everywhere, etc etc!
100mpg was 2k rpm in sixth, so at a guess 60mph, so five magnets would read 61.5mph, close enough (four not enough, six too many)

boosted

I can take more, what you want to see?