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Old 09 August 2014, 05:46 PM
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Yes - same engine.
Old 09 August 2014, 05:53 PM
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JDM's price hike then
Old 09 August 2014, 05:56 PM
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The oil pressure warning light switch has a setting of 0.15 bar !! its there to tell you the engine is rotating but not much else !!

The one thing thats almost certain to crack a piston is hitting the rev limiter, just once will do it.

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Old 09 August 2014, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Rawle
The one thing thats almost certain to crack a piston is hitting the rev limiter, just once will do it.

bob
Would lowering the rev limiter help in that case then or is due to the nature of the event it happens (regardless of the revs the rev limiter is set to)?
Old 09 August 2014, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaun
Yes - same engine.
Is that for definite, 100% certain.

If so that thread where several users were calling people for even suggesting it might be the same engine needs a revival with a few apologies!
Old 09 August 2014, 07:23 PM
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Anyone ever read this?? Not sure if its been posted before!!
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/leg...-litre-engines
Old 09 August 2014, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyboy1
Anyone ever read this?? Not sure if its been posted before!!
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/leg...-litre-engines
Have read this before, it seems that Subaru were unable to adapt to new European legislation as well as.....well most others, it's a shame really.
Old 09 August 2014, 08:55 PM
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the way i interrupt that is stock vehicles havent had any problems ?

so how many on here then who had/got a stock 2.5 had the problem ??
Old 09 August 2014, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by tarquin crispin
the way i interrupt that is stock vehicles havent had any problems ? so how many on here then who had/got a stock 2.5 had the problem ??
Me

Standard rb320 let go less than 36k on the clock, head gasket failure and cracked ringland(s) when stripped for rebuild.

No mods, now it has
Old 09 August 2014, 09:08 PM
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surely you would of had a case when subaru have stated this

From the information gathered through Fuji Heavy Industries' Engineering Teams, our Regional Service Managers and warranty information, it has been determined that engine failures have occurred due to one, or a combination of the following points:

Engine rev limits being constantly exceeded due to over speeding
Vehicles being un-officially modified outside the design brief of the engine (unit is designed for around 300 BHP or 330 BHP in the case of the STI 330S, not more)
Track use (racing, time trials, rallying etc)
Incorrect maintenance procedures, causing engines to be run with insufficient or contaminated lubricating oils
Use of incorrect fuel grade (RON)
Unofficial "grey" Imports of undetermined specification, ie. not supplied by Subaru (UK)
Old 09 August 2014, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tarquin crispin
the way i interrupt that is stock vehicles havent had any problems ?

so how many on here then who had/got a stock 2.5 had the problem ??
There's plenty of stock vehicles in that thread. They just seem invisible to the naysayers!
Old 09 August 2014, 09:12 PM
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The Subaru team of Engineers, who we believe to be the most capable and knowledgeable in the business have designed the 2.5 litre unit with lighter weight and lower friction materials, giving higher power without sacrificing current emission and CO2 outputs
Old 09 August 2014, 09:17 PM
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my brother had a similar issue with the cavalier GSI many years ago he drove it 2 miles and the engine blew we got a mechanical engineers report done on the car they ended up replace it with a new engine
Old 09 August 2014, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
don't read it,you keep your blinkers on about the 2.5 not failing, its all an internet myth

not even 20k though, shocking!!
Oh I know there's problems, it just makes me nervous agreeing with anything you say, you being a **** and all.
Old 09 August 2014, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tarquin crispin
surely you would of had a case when subaru have stated this

From the information gathered through Fuji Heavy Industries' Engineering Teams, our Regional Service Managers and warranty information, it has been determined that engine failures have occurred due to one, or a combination of the following points:

Engine rev limits being constantly exceeded due to over speeding
Vehicles being un-officially modified outside the design brief of the engine (unit is designed for around 300 BHP or 330 BHP in the case of the STI 330S, not more)
Track use (racing, time trials, rallying etc)
Incorrect maintenance procedures, causing engines to be run with insufficient or contaminated lubricating oils
Use of incorrect fuel grade (RON)
Unofficial "grey" Imports of undetermined specification, ie. not supplied by Subaru (UK)
So any claim on warranty can be pretty much passed off with any of the excuses above from Subaru UK. What a joke, reason why I wouldn't have a new Subaru!!!
Old 09 August 2014, 09:20 PM
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has anyone done a poll to see how many standard 2.5 have had engine probs and with what mileage would be very interesting
Old 09 August 2014, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tarquin crispin
has anyone done a poll to see how many standard 2.5 have had engine probs and with what mileage would be very interesting
I would give up now, I still get **** now because I asked the questions that you are asking.

There was, is clearly a problem with the 2.5 engine, by how much of a problem is anyone's guess.
Old 09 August 2014, 09:26 PM
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I think as this is Tonys and he was one of the first to get one like don and me, this will send waves now, as we all know he looks after them

Ticking time bomb... Get shut.... So glad I managed 30k in mine then sold,it, phew
Old 09 August 2014, 09:28 PM
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have any of the cosworth 400's gone or did they put better items in ??
Old 09 August 2014, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by tarquin crispin
have any of the cosworth 400's gone or did they put better items in ??
Was explained in that report.

But as for failures.........?
Old 09 August 2014, 09:42 PM
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They had forged pistons and other enhancements yes...
Old 09 August 2014, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by tarquin crispin
have any of the cosworth 400's gone or did they put better items in ??
The thing is with that is what ever was done was by cosworth so not subaru's workmanship anymore, well maybe a bit subaru but you get the point.
Old 09 August 2014, 10:34 PM
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Subaru USA gave up and accepted there was a problem.
Old 09 August 2014, 10:43 PM
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the americans wont stand for it they get 5 year warrantys as standard over there
Old 09 August 2014, 11:25 PM
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Diesel engines have gone pop also
Crankshafts and slaved pistons

Subaru
New 2.5 Engines built for long life

Mmm
Old 10 August 2014, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by tarquin crispin
have any of the cosworth 400's gone or did they put better items in ??
Nope, they were built properly!
Old 10 August 2014, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by chris j t
Oh I know there's problems, it just makes me nervous agreeing with anything you say, you being a **** and all.
Old 10 August 2014, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by tarquin crispin
my brother had a similar issue with the cavalier GSI many years ago he drove it 2 miles and the engine blew we got a mechanical engineers report done on the car they ended up replace it with a new engine
thats hard to believe as the c20xe (redtop) lump is known for being tuff as old boots and more than capable of clocking up mega high miles aswell as taking a staggering amount of abuse

i have had retop's before and one was over 200k on original engine

the only real concern was the porous head problem on the non cos-cast cars this affected the cavalier/calibra and i think the astra gte/gsi
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Originally Posted by the shreksta
thats hard to believe as the c20xe (redtop) lump is known for being tuff as old boots and more than capable of clocking up mega high miles aswell as taking a staggering amount of abuse

i have had retop's before and one was over 200k on original engine

the only real concern was the porous head problem on the non cos-cast cars this affected the cavalier/calibra and i think the astra gte/gsi
Now going off topic but if not mistaken with this engine I am sure the timing belt can snap and all will be well, just need to re time and a new belt and off you go, no bent valves.
Old 10 August 2014, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by chris j t
Now going off topic but if not mistaken with this engine I am sure the timing belt can snap and all will be well, just need to re time and a new belt and off you go, no bent valves.
nope i think thats incorrect,i think the 2.0 8v engine (c20ne) found in the cavalier sri 8v/calibra 8v is the one you mean

the c20seh 8v is not valve safe either


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