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Old 14 January 2017, 01:11 PM
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I was running Yokohama prada spec 2s about 1/2 way worn, until one day just coming off a junction at <30mph traction on the back end went on a barely damp road and bang one tree later and my car became a pile of parts.

What tyres are been used for a 500/500 road car, its very easy just to pick the most expensive but I thought I could pool your knowledge to pick the best tyres according to opinion.

18" wheel fyi

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Old 14 January 2017, 02:51 PM
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Michelin Pilot Supersports.
Old 14 January 2017, 04:03 PM
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Slicks!
Old 14 January 2017, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by joe v3sti
Slicks!

This.

The problem was your driving in the damp with that much power. Doesnt really matter what tyres you have in the wet, you need to anticipate that it is going to do some lairy ****....

My car i use toyo proxes 4, ns2r 120, etc etc and have always found with that much power on the damp you are driving a death trap, best bet is to use it on dry days only with high performance tyres and enjoy it properly...
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De tune the car you cannot use that power effectively on the road
Old 14 January 2017, 06:02 PM
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Bridgestone re002
Old 14 January 2017, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
Bridgestone re002
Are you kidding, it's a 1A list tyre which means it's not right cracking
Old 14 January 2017, 06:50 PM
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Useable power is key indeed.
Old 14 January 2017, 06:53 PM
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[QUOTE=joe v3sti;11910413]Are you kidding, it's a 1A list tyre which means it's not right cracking[/QUOT

I only do 2k a year all on the road
no cracking no issues putting down 455 ponies
Old 14 January 2017, 07:10 PM
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They are not s good tyre I'm afraid
Old 14 January 2017, 08:24 PM
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Rs3 in wet and semi slicks in dry.
Old 14 January 2017, 08:49 PM
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Used both ad08s and ns2rs 18p compound, both are **** in wet/damp conditions spot on in the dry. All the more fun with dccd fully open lol
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Coilovers? Big bars? No sidewall
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Only had 330bhp in a Type R but always found it quite easy to break traction, especially at this time of year when the roads are greasy and god knows how much diesel has been dripped all over the place, particularly anywhere that there's a bend in the road.

Doesn't matter how much power, cold, wet and greasy = fit winter tyres and pay more attention, half worn summer tyres aren't really up to the job.

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Old 14 January 2017, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by fpan
Michelin Pilot Supersports.
Got Michelin sport tyres on mine and they are very good all round tyres in my opinion, but as already said with high power in damp/wet conditions no tyre will be perfect.
Old 15 January 2017, 02:05 AM
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Using R888R in the summer and Toyo T1R's during the winter. 500bhp is far too much for any road car. Just take it easy on the loud pedal

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Old 15 January 2017, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by JGlanzaV
THIS!
The problem was your driving in the damp with that much power. Doesnt really matter what tyres you have in the wet, you need to anticipate that it is going to do some lairy ****....

My car i use toyo proxes 4, ns2r 120, etc etc and have always found with that much power on the damp you are driving a death trap, best bet is to use it on dry days only with high performance tyres and enjoy it properly...
And THIS!
Originally Posted by banny sti
Used both ad08s and ns2rs 18p compound, both are **** in wet/damp conditions spot on in the dry. All the more fun with dccd fully open lol
Drive according to road conditions and your own talentAny tire will suffer in the wet with 500 brake horses to keep under control.SJ.
Old 15 January 2017, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by johnlogie
Using R888R in the summer and Toyo T1R's during the winter. 500bhp is far too much for any road car. Just take it easy on the loud pedal
Exactly this.

I doubt i even use 30% of its potential in anything other than the driest days... Even then no where near 100%
Old 15 January 2017, 09:55 AM
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I would agree with the post about power. Mine is 400+ 400+ off a 2.5 and I can unstick it in the damp.

NO tyre is going to give you unlimited grip.

Have you looked at your suspension setup?
Old 15 January 2017, 10:38 PM
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Parada Spec 2s are ancient technology and pretty cack when they were new. Get a set of Pilot Super Sports if you can still find them, or wait for the PS4S which is being launched in a few weeks. Difference will be night and day, and you will indeed be able to take advantage of your power/torque responsibly even in mixed conditions.
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I believe the pilot sport 4S are only being launched in 19"/20"?
The pilot sport 4 might be worth investigating - PSS with updated wet weather ability.
Old 15 January 2017, 11:37 PM
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530/500 and I use eagle F1 and have found them to be quite good so far
Old 16 January 2017, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by plenty
Parada Spec 2s are ancient technology and pretty cack when they were new. Get a set of Pilot Super Sports if you can still find them, or wait for the PS4S which is being launched in a few weeks. Difference will be night and day, and you will indeed be able to take advantage of your power/torque responsibly even in mixed conditions.

Have you used tbis on a 500+ impreza? No tyre is going to make it any less lairy in the wet....
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Try them...you might be pleasantly surprised.
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Sounds like you were either going too quickly or there was something on the road. My hawk is north of 600HP and up until a couple of weeks back it had 4 year old worn out average Pirellis on all the way round. Even with a bit of spirited driving it was fairly hard to break traction unless I really wanted it to. Obviously if I provoked it hard enough I could get it to slide all over the place but I really would have to intend for it to do that. Unless your tyres were proper **** I'd say there were other factors.

I now have Hankook Ventus Sport EVO 2 tyres on and they are pretty damn good even when it's p!ssing it down. I've used alsorts over the years and the only one I could find better than them in the dry were the Yoko AD08s but they were shocking at dealing with standing water.
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Originally Posted by dazdavies
Sounds like you were either going too quickly or there was something on the road. My hawk is north of 600HP and up until a couple of weeks back it had 4 year old worn out average Pirellis on all the way round. Even with a bit of spirited driving it was fairly hard to break traction unless I really wanted it to. Obviously if I provoked it hard enough I could get it to slide all over the place but I really would have to intend for it to do that. Unless your tyres were proper **** I'd say there were other factors.

I now have Hankook Ventus Sport EVO 2 tyres on and they are pretty damn good even when it's p!ssing it down. I've used alsorts over the years and the only one I could find better than them in the dry were the Yoko AD08s but they were shocking at dealing with standing water.


Cheers Daz,
This is the kind of feedback I was looking for, I too found it hard to break traction until going round this junction in 3rd at under 30, I guess it was either the tyres or something on the road albeit I didn't see anything on the road
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Originally Posted by Mark10sti
Cheers Daz,
This is the kind of feedback I was looking for, I too found it hard to break traction until going round this junction in 3rd at under 30, I guess it was either the tyres or something on the road albeit I didn't see anything on the road
Had Parada Spec 2s on my 477/475 Hawkeye STI (18s) - great in the dry, but absolutely terrible in the wet. They used to break traction even at 25-30mph round my local roundabout if it was even slightly damp. So don't think it was down to your poor driving mate - they were just sh1te in the wet/damp. My suspension set up was in tip top and was aligned for me by a local racing driver on his Hunter machine - does all the local Scoob lads and knows his stuff.

Changed the Paradas to Goodyear Eagle F1 AS2 and it was like night and day in terms of wet & dry grip compared to the Parada. Top marks all round Goodyear

Currently have Uniroyal Rainsport 3s on my 474/483 V5 Type R and I have to say I am very impressed overall on their performance in both wet & dry conditions and let's face it, it's more wet than dry in this country! Very good when they are considered a mid-range tyre. Restricted by choice because of the 215 x 35 x 18, but would love to go for Michelin Pilot Sport 4 as a lot of the local Scoob lads use them and rate them very highly.
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Be even better on a bigger profile tyre. I run 225 40 18 or 225 45 17 on v3 type r for road/track. Once upon a time I ran 215 35 18 was awful.
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Originally Posted by sonic93
Be even better on a bigger profile tyre. I run 225 40 18 or 225 45 17 on v3 type r for road/track. Once upon a time I ran 215 35 18 was awful.
Yeah they aren't very forgiving that's for sure - can I run that sort of size tyre on my 18 x 7.5 alloys - 225 40 18?



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