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Old 19 January 2017, 08:25 AM
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Default Change Widetrack STI for Forester STI or Legacy GT?

As per the title really...as my cirumstances change I'm starting to find that I could do with a bit more practicality and a bit more room. I currently have a UK Widetrack STI which I love to pieces, but it's a bit of a pain when you're ferrying people around or trying to get a lot of stuff in the boot.....or transport large items with the none-folding rear seats lol

So I'm thinking about sticking to the Subaru Marque but changing to a Forester or a Legacy. Can anyone impart any wisdom about the pros and cons of them? I know there are a few Forester drivers on here...but not sure about Legacy.

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Old 19 January 2017, 11:44 AM
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Trooper 1815 has got a really smart legacy wr gt. One of those is definitely on my short list for when my wagon needs replacing.
Or I get bored, which ever comes first...
Old 19 January 2017, 11:51 AM
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I have had a Foggy STi and am now inside my second JDM WR LTD Spec B GT, but both cars I loved.

For more Legacy info go here - http://www.uklegacy.com/forums/

The Legacy Spec B GT is really a fist in a velvet glove with just a minor map tweak but remains quite and refined, it's a 2.0l Twinscroll with 280 BHP as standard. They have an ECO mode and can return 30 mpg on a long run without any problems, mapped and with the button off it can seriously lift it's skirt and shift very well. It's not as dynamic as a Impreza but the standard Bilsteins and springs work very well. The build quality is also way better than an Impreza which can only be a bonus. Lacking a 6th gear on the BP/BL pre-facelifts is not to much of a chore.

I have the wagon and the space is great. The JDM Spec B GT as many extra features over the UK car including reclining rear seats and remote rear seat release to name a few and later models are available 6 speed Si Drive. The UK 6 Speed H6 3.0 litre is a great bruiser too but lacks that JDM-ness I like. The 2.0 and 2.5's are OK but a bit dull IMHO. My daughter, son in law, two kids and all their camping gear were easily taken to Cornwall last year without fuss.

Mine is mapped to 319/327 with just a Cosworth Panel Filter. The 6 speed is an upgrade that some have done to the JDM 5's. The Impreza boxes to not fit as they lack a sensor mount.

My Foggy STi 2.5 JDM really was a brute with the Lichfield 330/330 upgrade with lots of Whiteline Chassis stuff and STi Pink suspension, with the Zero Sport Induction kit and full 3 inch Milltek it was a real missile, the torque was positively face rearranging but helped with the fuel consumption having a 6th gear. It was sold and LPG'd and was last known with 140K on the clock and rising. The smaller intercooler would probably be the only upgrade I would have done with mine. The handy thing is there are a lot of common Impreza GD/GG chassis common parts.

The load area is not as big as the Leggy and I found the rear as cramped as an Impreza. Horses for courses but currently the Leggy is imports are cheaper. BUT I got my WR Ltd in May 16 but the same model is now importing for £1000 more

Mine

https://www.scoobynet.com/members-ga...spec-b-gt.html

Torque GT

http://torque-gt.co.uk/car/subaru-le...-b-wr-edition/

http://torque-gt.co.uk/car/subaru-legacy-gt-3/

http://torque-gt.co.uk/car/subaru-forester-sti-2/

If you need specifics drop me a PM

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FSTI all day long. Mine is running just under 350bhp now and is an absolute delight to drive every day. I came from an Impreza into the FSTI and I loved it so much I sold my pride and joy Impreza. Such a practical car and so fast now. Certainly equal to my modified 334/381 2.5 Impreza I had before.


The extra height inside is very useful too and the boot space is great. Mine gets used daily and for everything. I honestly don't know how I coped before I had it now. It's great.
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v.useful info. thanks guys
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Leg GT Spec B just popped up on GT Torque


http://torque-gt.co.uk/car/subaru-le...-b-wr-edition/


Second one they have had there in recent times.


Edit - should have read Troopers (very informative) post first

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Originally Posted by scout1982
Leg GT Spec B just popped up on GT Torque


http://torque-gt.co.uk/car/subaru-le...-b-wr-edition/


Second one they have had there in recent times.


Edit - should have read Troopers (very informative) post first
Nice car but lacks some of the upgrades mine as. The WR LTD mat set is missing unless they are under the over mats, no strut braces, front lip or STI coolant caps that mine came with. I also have the trick electric grounding kit.
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that is a nice looking car, I must say. SO to clarify, the JDM cars have a 2.0 or 2.5 lump. The UK cars have a 3.0?
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Originally Posted by Ste333
that is a nice looking car, I must say. SO to clarify, the JDM cars have a 2.0 or 2.5 lump. The UK cars have a 3.0?
The JDM up to 2012 (I think) are 2.0l EJ20Y twinscroll and after became a 2.5 lump.

The UK Cars came as 2, 2.5 flat four and a 3.0 flat six.
Only the 2.0l diesel as a turbo. But the flat six takes well to a blower

If you need specifics drop me a PM and I'll send my phone number or PM hallie on UK Legacy who is the Brain

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cheers pal, appreciate it I was hoping that would be the case as well - that decent usable daily power can be attained with just a remap and small tweaks.
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If only

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/subaru/...egacy-sti-s402
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Ive had foggys and legacys of most shapes and agree with trooper.

What i would say is that the leggy load bay is noticably longer inside than the forester.

Im currently in a 3.0 specb 6 speed (soon for sale :-) ) and its a great drive but very different feel to the 4 cylinders, easily sits above 30mpg and i find the easy torqueyness suits the longer and heavyer estate really well.
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Originally Posted by legacy_gtb
Ive had foggys and legacys of most shapes and agree with trooper.

What i would say is that the leggy load bay is noticably longer inside than the forester.

Im currently in a 3.0 specb 6 speed (soon for sale :-) ) and its a great drive but very different feel to the 4 cylinders, easily sits above 30mpg and i find the easy torqueyness suits the longer and heavyer estate really well.
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Originally Posted by scout1982
Leg GT Spec B just popped up on GT Torque
http://torque-gt.co.uk/car/subaru-le...-b-wr-edition/
Drooooool. If the wife says we need a 'sensible family car' again instead of the blob wagon, I'm in!
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Originally Posted by boggissimo
Drooooool. If the wife says we need a 'sensible family car' again instead of the blob wagon, I'm in!
Me too!
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Originally Posted by boggissimo
Drooooool. If the wife says we need a 'sensible family car' again instead of the blob wagon, I'm in!
Is Edenbridge close to you?
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Originally Posted by boggissimo
Drooooool. If the wife says we need a 'sensible family car' again instead of the blob wagon, I'm in!
Is Edenbridge close enough?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/prodriftuk...88.m1543.l2654
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
Is Edenbridge close to you?
Yep, not far, will bear that in mind!
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Originally Posted by boggissimo
Yep, not far, will bear that in mind!
I got my WR from Charlie, top man.
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If you fancy a fsti pm me,mine might be up for sale soon.
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I might be a little biased, but Go for the Foz Sti for the rarity factor. And they seem to hold their value.
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What years did they make the Fprester STI? Was it up until 2007, then one in 2012? My Google skills are failing me!
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The SF 2.0 STi was available from MY 98 in Auto and Manuel. The SG 2.5 was from MY 04 and facelifted in 2006 production stopped at MY07 I think.

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going off this thread, it seems that the Foz's and Legacy's have a secret cult following on here lol.
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Originally Posted by Ste333
going off this thread, it seems that the Foz's and Legacy's have a secret cult following on here lol.
Possibly

When you consider only 400 WR Ltd and even less of the S/STi models were built and they could be a future keeper.
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The FSTI models are appreciating at the moment too. Good investments IMO.
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Originally Posted by Ste333
going off this thread, it seems that the Foz's and Legacy's have a secret cult following on here lol.
They're relatively rare cars, so I've only really found out about them since joining scoobynet. And as I get older something with most of the performance of an impreza, but a few more creature comforts and practicality seems appealing for the future.
I'm still annoyed that subaru's current range isn't a patch on what was available in 2005...




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