Evo Magazine New Long Termer - 2014 WRX STI
26 January 2015, 04:02 PM
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Evo Magazine New Long Termer - 2014 WRX STI
and its in Blue.
Got a bit of a slating from the reviewer,
"Theres a radio with both FM and AM! and ZX Spectrum-spec fuel economy gauge and a graphic that tells you what the wheels are doing. Or something."
and
"The low speed ride is awful...the steering confuses weight for feel and the chassis feels a bit 90's Audi"
but does admit to only driving 200 commuting miles so far. Will be interesting to see what they make of it..Obviously it will probably be s***e then they will drive the JDM twinscroll version, and there will be a Eureka moment!
Got a bit of a slating from the reviewer,
"Theres a radio with both FM and AM! and ZX Spectrum-spec fuel economy gauge and a graphic that tells you what the wheels are doing. Or something."
and
"The low speed ride is awful...the steering confuses weight for feel and the chassis feels a bit 90's Audi"
but does admit to only driving 200 commuting miles so far. Will be interesting to see what they make of it..Obviously it will probably be s***e then they will drive the JDM twinscroll version, and there will be a Eureka moment!
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26 January 2015, 04:12 PM
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and its in Blue.
Got a bit of a slating from the reviewer,
"Theres a radio with both FM and AM! and ZX Spectrum-spec fuel economy gauge and a graphic that tells you what the wheels are doing. Or something."
and
"The low speed ride is awful...the steering confuses weight for feel and the chassis feels a bit 90's Audi"
but does admit to only driving 200 commuting miles so far. Will be interesting to see what they make of it..Obviously it will probably be s***e then they will drive the JDM twinscroll version, and there will be a Eureka moment!
Got a bit of a slating from the reviewer,
"Theres a radio with both FM and AM! and ZX Spectrum-spec fuel economy gauge and a graphic that tells you what the wheels are doing. Or something."
and
"The low speed ride is awful...the steering confuses weight for feel and the chassis feels a bit 90's Audi"
but does admit to only driving 200 commuting miles so far. Will be interesting to see what they make of it..Obviously it will probably be s***e then they will drive the JDM twinscroll version, and there will be a Eureka moment!
26 January 2015, 04:33 PM
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The Golf R is a massive contender in this category, but I find German cars lack a type of 'soul' that an Impreza has. Having owned an array of GTI's, S3's, Quattros etc, there was just something about the Type R and the JDM Blob that the others couldnt come close to matching (apart from my Mk2 GTI). Who knows if the new one brings this or not.
26 January 2015, 08:38 PM
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Definitely the Golf R at that price point.
Running costs (depreciation/economy/Service) on the golf for the same performance got to be lower. They have been doing crazy lease deals on the Golf R also.
10 Years ago an STI & EVO had the USP of more power and grip and you could see it in the WRC.
Now they are all at it. Mercedes, Audi & VW with BMW doing pretty well with 2wd in 135i & 235i .
Running costs (depreciation/economy/Service) on the golf for the same performance got to be lower. They have been doing crazy lease deals on the Golf R also.
10 Years ago an STI & EVO had the USP of more power and grip and you could see it in the WRC.
Now they are all at it. Mercedes, Audi & VW with BMW doing pretty well with 2wd in 135i & 235i .
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27 January 2015, 12:34 AM
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I've had one for a month now and I think it's great, have to disagree with the Evo long term initial review. Low speed ride is fine and the chassis is anything but 80's audi. Its a huge step forward from my previous Subaru (RB320) as far as handling and build quality goes and it's also comfortable with a surprisingly decent interior.
Everyone's got their own opinion though, I'd highly recommend having a test drive in one, you'd be surprised how good it is.
I honestly thought my 320 would be the last Subaru I'd own but I love the new styling and I'm really happy with the car so far. I'm sure the Golf R is a great car and there are definitely plenty of similar powered cars available but the Subaru does it for me.
Everyone's got their own opinion though, I'd highly recommend having a test drive in one, you'd be surprised how good it is.
I honestly thought my 320 would be the last Subaru I'd own but I love the new styling and I'm really happy with the car so far. I'm sure the Golf R is a great car and there are definitely plenty of similar powered cars available but the Subaru does it for me.
27 January 2015, 07:35 AM
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I think partly, its because we know what to expect from a Subaru , these tester test every car under the sun, therefore they have a wider set of experience and knowledge to base a decision on. I don't doubt its a great car, but is it enough car hitting enough areas to warrant its price tag? Bearing in mind the Golf R is a remap away from 400bhp and a sub 3 second 0-60 jolt, in a more refined cabin and size.
Its such a shame the UK spec STI's get the poverty engine, I really think having the JDM twinscroll would raise more eyebrows at the Evo headquarters.
Its such a shame the UK spec STI's get the poverty engine, I really think having the JDM twinscroll would raise more eyebrows at the Evo headquarters.
27 January 2015, 08:09 AM
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I think partly, its because we know what to expect from a Subaru , these tester test every car under the sun, therefore they have a wider set of experience and knowledge to base a decision on. I don't doubt its a great car, but is it enough car hitting enough areas to warrant its price tag? Bearing in mind the Golf R is a remap away from 400bhp and a sub 3 second 0-60 jolt, in a more refined cabin and size.
Its such a shame the UK spec STI's get the poverty engine, I really think having the JDM twinscroll would raise more eyebrows at the Evo headquarters.
Its such a shame the UK spec STI's get the poverty engine, I really think having the JDM twinscroll would raise more eyebrows at the Evo headquarters.
would prefer bigger singlescroll with better spool and kick
im sure is way better car on corners, town etc than golf r
still banned on bmw forum, should own car with proper M not m package
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27 January 2015, 08:17 AM
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you are laughable. And JDM comes with different suspension. Lol.
Now runalong back to the carwash and leave this thread for the knowledgeable
27 January 2015, 12:29 PM
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No idea how twinscroll could improve low speed ride steering feel, no reviews about engine complains yet.
would prefer bigger singlescroll with better spool and kick
im sure is way better car on corners, town etc than golf r
still banned on bmw forum, should own car with proper M not m package
would prefer bigger singlescroll with better spool and kick
im sure is way better car on corners, town etc than golf r
still banned on bmw forum, should own car with proper M not m package
27 January 2015, 12:54 PM
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I don't care what any of you say, which is better, what the failure rates are etc etc.
if you pull up in a Golf R, S3, Type-R or a new 2015 impreza ,
the impreza will be the one everyone focuses on.
and as everyone above are well aware that engine has been used for years and we all know how tuned up that engine can be. so power shouldn't be an issue and I don't think any of us would buy any car and not consider mods
Subaru and Mitsubishi have never been the type of car you see on every motorway and never have they been the quickest
We can hold on to our classics, bugs, blobs, hawk, hatch forever - but what do they all have in common? they are still highly respected and held close to the people that own them and recognised by anyone that see's them.
you cant say that with many other marquee's and brands.
the 2015 impreza is a really nice looking car and the 2015 car will still be highly regarded as we get to 2025 like our blob eyes now.
The classic is what 20 years old now? look at the majority of other cars which are 20 years old, Subaru impreza is a strong brand and isn't going no where.
if you pull up in a Golf R, S3, Type-R or a new 2015 impreza ,
the impreza will be the one everyone focuses on.
and as everyone above are well aware that engine has been used for years and we all know how tuned up that engine can be. so power shouldn't be an issue and I don't think any of us would buy any car and not consider mods
Subaru and Mitsubishi have never been the type of car you see on every motorway and never have they been the quickest
We can hold on to our classics, bugs, blobs, hawk, hatch forever - but what do they all have in common? they are still highly respected and held close to the people that own them and recognised by anyone that see's them.
you cant say that with many other marquee's and brands.
the 2015 impreza is a really nice looking car and the 2015 car will still be highly regarded as we get to 2025 like our blob eyes now.
The classic is what 20 years old now? look at the majority of other cars which are 20 years old, Subaru impreza is a strong brand and isn't going no where.
27 January 2015, 01:26 PM
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I'd tend to agree with you, on which would tend to gain the greater exposure out of those four you mention. Part of the STI appeal has been about the rally inspired look, and in this day and age of boring styling.... it certainly stands out.
Whether the 2015 is "really nice looking" is subjective. Some will say (for the reasons stated above) that it looks awful, whilst others will say it's "OK" or "AWESOME!!". I actually like the look of this model.
The Impreza brand has taken a major battering, which has in part been the outcome of not being part of WRC, let alone any issues known with the cars themselves. This led to the point that IM withdrew the STI from the UK. Thankfully that decision has now been reversed, so let's hope they continue to grow the brand further.
IMO the STI is yesterdays news. Subaru need to reinvigorate the brand, as the way things are going with nearly every other marque raging forward, they will disappear in to an even more niche market than they currently hold.
I would love to return back to this marque at some point, but for me, they will need to do some forward thinking to persuade me to do that. Personally I feel this will be difficult for Subaru..... they are a relative small manufacturer and I suspect that one of the main reasons why they continue to use "dirty" technology, is that they don't have the funds to develop the next generation. It would be sad if this seals their fate.
The problem is, if you rest on your laurels too much during the good times, when you need to drive things forward again it becomes quite a task to undertake.
Let's hope they already have the "next development" waiting in the wings.
Whether the 2015 is "really nice looking" is subjective. Some will say (for the reasons stated above) that it looks awful, whilst others will say it's "OK" or "AWESOME!!". I actually like the look of this model.
The Impreza brand has taken a major battering, which has in part been the outcome of not being part of WRC, let alone any issues known with the cars themselves. This led to the point that IM withdrew the STI from the UK. Thankfully that decision has now been reversed, so let's hope they continue to grow the brand further.
IMO the STI is yesterdays news. Subaru need to reinvigorate the brand, as the way things are going with nearly every other marque raging forward, they will disappear in to an even more niche market than they currently hold.
I would love to return back to this marque at some point, but for me, they will need to do some forward thinking to persuade me to do that. Personally I feel this will be difficult for Subaru..... they are a relative small manufacturer and I suspect that one of the main reasons why they continue to use "dirty" technology, is that they don't have the funds to develop the next generation. It would be sad if this seals their fate.
The problem is, if you rest on your laurels too much during the good times, when you need to drive things forward again it becomes quite a task to undertake.
Let's hope they already have the "next development" waiting in the wings.
28 January 2015, 01:24 PM
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I don't care what any of you say, which is better, what the failure rates are etc etc.
if you pull up in a Golf R, S3, Type-R or a new 2015 impreza ,
the impreza will be the one everyone focuses on.
and as everyone above are well aware that engine has been used for years and we all know how tuned up that engine can be. so power shouldn't be an issue and I don't think any of us would buy any car and not consider mods
Subaru and Mitsubishi have never been the type of car you see on every motorway and never have they been the quickest
We can hold on to our classics, bugs, blobs, hawk, hatch forever - but what do they all have in common? they are still highly respected and held close to the people that own them and recognised by anyone that see's them.
you cant say that with many other marquee's and brands.
the 2015 impreza is a really nice looking car and the 2015 car will still be highly regarded as we get to 2025 like our blob eyes now.
The classic is what 20 years old now? look at the majority of other cars which are 20 years old, Subaru impreza is a strong brand and isn't going no where.
if you pull up in a Golf R, S3, Type-R or a new 2015 impreza ,
the impreza will be the one everyone focuses on.
and as everyone above are well aware that engine has been used for years and we all know how tuned up that engine can be. so power shouldn't be an issue and I don't think any of us would buy any car and not consider mods
Subaru and Mitsubishi have never been the type of car you see on every motorway and never have they been the quickest
We can hold on to our classics, bugs, blobs, hawk, hatch forever - but what do they all have in common? they are still highly respected and held close to the people that own them and recognised by anyone that see's them.
you cant say that with many other marquee's and brands.
the 2015 impreza is a really nice looking car and the 2015 car will still be highly regarded as we get to 2025 like our blob eyes now.
The classic is what 20 years old now? look at the majority of other cars which are 20 years old, Subaru impreza is a strong brand and isn't going no where.
I agree, its an awesome looking machine, although I would go as to say its slightly underwheeled but Imprezas always have been.
Its a niche market, they will sell some, but it might still be the end for the STI in England I feel at the price point it is at.
I'd tend to agree with you, on which would tend to gain the greater exposure out of those four you mention. Part of the STI appeal has been about the rally inspired look, and in this day and age of boring styling.... it certainly stands out.
Whether the 2015 is "really nice looking" is subjective. Some will say (for the reasons stated above) that it looks awful, whilst others will say it's "OK" or "AWESOME!!". I actually like the look of this model.
The Impreza brand has taken a major battering, which has in part been the outcome of not being part of WRC, let alone any issues known with the cars themselves. This led to the point that IM withdrew the STI from the UK. Thankfully that decision has now been reversed, so let's hope they continue to grow the brand further.
IMO the STI is yesterdays news. Subaru need to reinvigorate the brand, as the way things are going with nearly every other marque raging forward, they will disappear in to an even more niche market than they currently hold.
I would love to return back to this marque at some point, but for me, they will need to do some forward thinking to persuade me to do that. Personally I feel this will be difficult for Subaru..... they are a relative small manufacturer and I suspect that one of the main reasons why they continue to use "dirty" technology, is that they don't have the funds to develop the next generation. It would be sad if this seals their fate.
The problem is, if you rest on your laurels too much during the good times, when you need to drive things forward again it becomes quite a task to undertake.
Let's hope they already have the "next development" waiting in the wings.
Whether the 2015 is "really nice looking" is subjective. Some will say (for the reasons stated above) that it looks awful, whilst others will say it's "OK" or "AWESOME!!". I actually like the look of this model.
The Impreza brand has taken a major battering, which has in part been the outcome of not being part of WRC, let alone any issues known with the cars themselves. This led to the point that IM withdrew the STI from the UK. Thankfully that decision has now been reversed, so let's hope they continue to grow the brand further.
IMO the STI is yesterdays news. Subaru need to reinvigorate the brand, as the way things are going with nearly every other marque raging forward, they will disappear in to an even more niche market than they currently hold.
I would love to return back to this marque at some point, but for me, they will need to do some forward thinking to persuade me to do that. Personally I feel this will be difficult for Subaru..... they are a relative small manufacturer and I suspect that one of the main reasons why they continue to use "dirty" technology, is that they don't have the funds to develop the next generation. It would be sad if this seals their fate.
The problem is, if you rest on your laurels too much during the good times, when you need to drive things forward again it becomes quite a task to undertake.
Let's hope they already have the "next development" waiting in the wings.
28 January 2015, 01:42 PM
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Whilst we think that the WRX/STI is such a corner stone of their performance line-up, Subaru clearly don't see this, or they are trying to get away with as much or as little as possible (in respect of development, either doing it or not). IMO that is clear with what both you and I have alluded to.
28 January 2015, 02:11 PM
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Whilst we think that the WRX/STI is such a corner stone of their performance line-up, Subaru clearly don't see this, or they are trying to get away with as much or as little as possible (in respect of development, either doing it or not). IMO that is clear with what both you and I have alluded to.
The resale value of one of these in comparison to a Golf Type R and Audi RS3 will also be shocking, so are Subaru hoping that former glories will warrant buyers losing a lot of cash just be owning one?
29 January 2015, 03:41 AM
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Funnily enough I'm familiar with the concept of how a magazine works, nowadays some magazines even utilize this new-fangled internet thing and post stuff online, for example: the rest of the their long term tests, its pretty impressive but I don't think it will catch on.
I don't buy Evo or subscribe to it so just wondered if it was available online, thank you for enlightening me to the ways of the media and publishing industry.
29 January 2015, 03:44 AM
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Hilarious.
Funnily enough I'm familiar with the concept of how a magazine works, nowadays some magazines even utilize this new-fangled internet thing and post stuff online, for example: the rest of the their long term tests, its pretty impressive but I don't think it will catch on.
I don't buy Evo or subscribe to it so just wondered if it was available online, thank you for enlightening me to the ways of the media and publishing industry.
Funnily enough I'm familiar with the concept of how a magazine works, nowadays some magazines even utilize this new-fangled internet thing and post stuff online, for example: the rest of the their long term tests, its pretty impressive but I don't think it will catch on.
I don't buy Evo or subscribe to it so just wondered if it was available online, thank you for enlightening me to the ways of the media and publishing industry.
29 January 2015, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Long Term Test WRX STI Chocolate Engine Edition
Car looks average, goes quite well, interior is tat.... engine blew up... next car please
29 January 2015, 08:23 AM
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Subaru are doing well in the UK with the other models so could be just putting the STI out there as a feeler.
I reckon we will see a PART return of what we used to see although I think that market place has gone forever.
I've not driven it but what big saloon car is there at that price with awd and x amount of bhp, comparing it to a golf at the same price with the same power a bit more equipment but less car isn't like for like, nevertheless, IMO, doesn't seem so bad when compared, at least you wont see one everywhere you look like the golf. (not quite so much with the golf r)
I reckon we will see a PART return of what we used to see although I think that market place has gone forever.
I've not driven it but what big saloon car is there at that price with awd and x amount of bhp, comparing it to a golf at the same price with the same power a bit more equipment but less car isn't like for like, nevertheless, IMO, doesn't seem so bad when compared, at least you wont see one everywhere you look like the golf. (not quite so much with the golf r)
29 January 2015, 09:03 AM
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Would make a huge difference to the appearance of the interior if they used some alcantara and different softer touch material for the dash. Personally, I quite like the look of the new STI; it still looks different compared to most modern cars.
29 January 2015, 09:46 AM
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Subaru are doing well in the UK with the other models so could be just putting the STI out there as a feeler.
I reckon we will see a PART return of what we used to see although I think that market place has gone forever.
I've not driven it but what big saloon car is there at that price with awd and x amount of bhp, comparing it to a golf at the same price with the same power a bit more equipment but less car isn't like for like, nevertheless, IMO, doesn't seem so bad when compared, at least you wont see one everywhere you look like the golf. (not quite so much with the golf r)
I reckon we will see a PART return of what we used to see although I think that market place has gone forever.
I've not driven it but what big saloon car is there at that price with awd and x amount of bhp, comparing it to a golf at the same price with the same power a bit more equipment but less car isn't like for like, nevertheless, IMO, doesn't seem so bad when compared, at least you wont see one everywhere you look like the golf. (not quite so much with the golf r)
A simple set of Recaros would be nice and at that price point, expected.
29 January 2015, 09:50 AM
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