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Old 07 May 2015, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Littleted
in the initial days its a plug in Box Maz as they had not cracked the ECUs, so yes i just plug it in to 4 sensors and off i go.

The stage 2s as far as i know from RENNtech are proper ECU maps now, Rebellions i think is still the box.

Weistec in the USA and MSL in brum now MAP the ECU direct which i do believe is best, however because the cars expensive having the Plug in box kind of negates the Warranty issue that could be had should MB detect a proper MAP, don't get me wrong though they can also prob detect a box if they wanted to... but so far none have been.

i,ll never go to 460BHP, the cars aggressive enough with the 400+ one. that 460 1 must be mad.
I'll find out where Eurocharged are with the A45 next week as I am seeing Paul and Andy a week on Friday.
Old 07 May 2015, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Littleted
Luke knows as far as i know Shaun, if you see his advert its LTD and he did say why in one of the Aclass posts....

luke dos not Waffle....let me see if i can find it
Ive pinged him to ask in more depth.

this was his reply, but how i don't know

Our Stage 2 is a part of our coming "track package", the transmission will not handle more without further modifications.
However, if sold as a "racing product" not covered by our warranty, we can bring the torque up to 585Nm or even more on 102 RON Octane fuel.
That explanation means nothing. Does a gear break, selectors, bearings, casing etc etc? I've struggled to get any meaningful information unfortunately. Your quote from Luke amplifies my findings.
Old 07 May 2015, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Tuning cars is fine but it rather skews the numbers.
People are getting 430bhp and 520lbs-ft out of M135is with a cat back, JB4 and other light mods. Performance is ballistic but I'd never quote the numbers as a comparison.
Tuning doesn't skew the numbers..... numbers (if out of context) skew the reality!

Peak figures mean diddly. Put some real performance figures up, like in-gear times, and then we can better see if those peak figures actually relate to anything good.

The majority of the tuning world and owners, are all bent out of shape about peak figures. I know of at least one individual who has thrown around £4k at his A45 (tuning box, inlet kit, full decat exhaust, gearbox tune and throttle response tune), with a reported output of over 450bhp. Thing is, his VBOX times are not that much better than mine - and I only have a £500 Litchfield Tuning Box!

Even though this is an area that I know Litchfield want to test and develop, I don't really want to change my inlet or exhaust, until I've proved that I need to.

Like they say..... the bull**** stops when the flag drops!
Old 07 May 2015, 01:10 PM
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I'll have a nosy; one vid shows a tuned M135i blitzing a V10 R8 but it's not very scientific.
With the six pots standard flat torque curve peaking at 1300rpm, I suspect the tuned ones are pretty useable; Litchfield is developing an M235i; almost the same car.
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
With the six pots standard flat torque curve peaking at 1300rpm.
Weird that I've never seen a graph that shows that low rpm for peak torque. Even a MAHA (which really load the car up) ran in 6th gear, peaked at around 2k.
Old 07 May 2015, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
A bit like a virtual version of a Macdonalds car park
Old 07 May 2015, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by lozgti1
What you laughing at...... in your case it would be a virtual Aldi carpark meet!
Old 07 May 2015, 01:49 PM
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Cheeky sod! some of us can't afford the mercs

My Skoda gets the shopping home fine though
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And its not a slowcoach !
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Originally Posted by lozgti1
Cheeky sod! some of us can't afford the mercs

My Skoda gets the shopping home fine though
Old 07 May 2015, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaun
Weird that I've never seen a graph that shows that low rpm for peak torque. Even a MAHA (which really load the car up) ran in 6th gear, peaked at around 2k.
It's on any test pretty much.
Every single one a mate had tested (20+) has been over 350lbs-ft too.
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Matt,
I'm not saying it's untrue (well.. I am lol), but I've had a look at both dyno runs on the net from standard cars and tuned ones (even from tuners). I'm yet to come across one that shows peak torque that low down.

What "tests" are you referring to?
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Evo, Car mag, etc; pretty sure they all state it. Also fastestlaps.com, BMW website, etc.

Didn't think you disbelieved me (!), it's just fairly common knowledge!
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Matt,
They're only stating what the manufacturers are stating! The reality based on all the dyno graphs I've seen, tell a totally different story. That's all I'm saying.
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Originally Posted by Shaun
Matt,
They're only stating what the manufacturers are stating! The reality based on all the dyno graphs I've seen, tell a totally different story. That's all I'm saying.
I've seen a few; they seem about "right."
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Just one example.
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Matt,
Take this with the humour that is meant...... but you can read a dyno graph right?

Peak torque is being achieved at 3200rpm.... so yeah, it proves my point succinctly. Although I suspect that run was not loaded correctly.

You do realise my comments about this, have been about the RPM point you quoted.... not the torque figure.

P.S. In fact I've just read my posts back, and I made the point twice.

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Okay, fair enough but this is what Evo says about the newer LCI model:

The peak torque output of 332lb ft is delivered from just 1300rpm, which is unchanged from the previous model.

As do many other mags. I haven't taken it as far as dyno-ing but whatever it actually is, it pulls like a bar steward from almost idle. There is not a single moment when pushing it when you wait for the revs to rise before getting that turbo kick. It's there all the time, every time.
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First time using launch control

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Originally Posted by theboy
First time using launch control

A45 AMG seriously quick - YouTube

Going fast in a straight line has never looked more boring!
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Originally Posted by stilover
Going fast in a straight line has never looked more boring!
Each to their own, its not something i would be using all the time
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Thread title: "A45 owners: show us your rides!!" Eight pages and only two owners have actually posted a photo (and only a solitary one, for that matter) of their A45... and they were both on the first page!


Have you got any more piccys, Shaun? If so, I'd like to see them!


Thanks,
Uncle C
Old 28 May 2015, 08:04 PM
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I would post if it didnt mean using that photo bucket thing, but i did post a video
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I wrote a big post about how my A45 is a much better experience than 15 years of driving Subaru's but the forum logged me out and trashed the post so TLR

Subaru = Old Skool and are well out the loop both quality and tech
A45 = WIN

My new car.



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Originally Posted by f1_fan
I'll find out where Eurocharged are with the A45 next week as I am seeing Paul and Andy a week on Friday.
Missed this but great thanks
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Use msft word first hehe I learnt the hard way too
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Originally Posted by Jimmy321
I wrote a big post about how my A45 is a much better experience than 15 years of driving Subaru's but the forum logged me out and trashed the post so TLR

Subaru = Old Skool and are well out the loop both quality and tech
A45 = WIN

My new car.




A picture of an A45!!! And even more impressive is you've made one of your only-every-three-and-a-half-year posts!!!


You don't see many in silver with the aero kit. Very nice!
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Originally Posted by Jimmy321
I wrote a big post about how my A45 is a much better experience than 15 years of driving Subaru's but the forum logged me out and trashed the post so TLR

Subaru = Old Skool and are well out the loop both quality and tech
A45 = WIN

My new car.


Looks good in that colour; shiny new too!
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