What do we all think of the Queen meeting McGuinness?
26 June 2012, 08:31 PM
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What do we all think of the Queen meeting McGuinness?
Personally I believe it's a sign of progress and a welcome development on the road to a normalisation of politics in Northern Ireland
26 June 2012, 08:35 PM
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Sinn Fein are only doing it because they realised how wrongly they got it by snubbing her visit to Ireland. It'll be good PR for the politician/ex-terrorist.
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27 June 2012, 02:49 PM
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I fully appreciate that, but it brings into question, for example, that had Osama Bin Laden come out and said "enough of the killing, lets all be freinds" would he have been welcomed with open arms and a handshake?
27 June 2012, 03:10 PM
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In fact we are talking to both the Taliban and AK leaders ongoing these days
27 June 2012, 03:18 PM
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I don't for one minute think that McGuinness all of a sudden decided he was anti terrorism and wanted a more settled Ireland.
Greed has overcome his convictions. He's getting rich.
As for the handshake? It's a necessary teeth gritting sell out on both sides. False smiles all round.
Greed has overcome his convictions. He's getting rich.
As for the handshake? It's a necessary teeth gritting sell out on both sides. False smiles all round.
27 June 2012, 03:59 PM
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political leaders have a habit of getting rich there's little we can do about it , if by happy coincidence it stops them killing people so much the better
which is the main thing
which is the main thing
27 June 2012, 04:25 PM
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27 June 2012, 04:50 PM
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according to his bank statement his doesn't lift his MP salary and only gets enough to live on every month from Sinn Fein Approx £1200
27 June 2012, 05:11 PM
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9/11 changed everything , & the UFF , IRA etc etc relised that western terrorism wouldn't cut it anymore / 11 years later what has changed ?
No much in the eyes of evil , these people hate the british it's in there DNA genome
Why only last night there was a strong riot wich included Molotov cocktails been thrown / it's just another political sidestep so the Irish American funds keep rolling in / on the queens side of things , I'm not entirely sure why or what this will bring ( perhaps Gerry Adams will be having tea & biscuits at NO 10 next / either way it's all wrong
( but that's my sole opinion )
No much in the eyes of evil , these people hate the british it's in there DNA genome
Why only last night there was a strong riot wich included Molotov cocktails been thrown / it's just another political sidestep so the Irish American funds keep rolling in / on the queens side of things , I'm not entirely sure why or what this will bring ( perhaps Gerry Adams will be having tea & biscuits at NO 10 next / either way it's all wrong
( but that's my sole opinion )
27 June 2012, 05:21 PM
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9/11 changed everything , & the UFF , IRA etc etc relised that western terrorism wouldn't cut it anymore / 11 years later what has changed ?
No much in the eyes of evil , these people hate the british it's in there DNA genome
Why only last night there was a strong riot wich included Molotov cocktails been thrown / it's just another political sidestep so the Irish American funds keep rolling in / on the queens side of things , I'm not entirely sure why or what this will bring ( perhaps Gerry Adams will be having tea & biscuits at NO 10 next / either way it's all wrong
( but that's my sole opinion )
No much in the eyes of evil , these people hate the british it's in there DNA genome
Why only last night there was a strong riot wich included Molotov cocktails been thrown / it's just another political sidestep so the Irish American funds keep rolling in / on the queens side of things , I'm not entirely sure why or what this will bring ( perhaps Gerry Adams will be having tea & biscuits at NO 10 next / either way it's all wrong
( but that's my sole opinion )
Why is it all wrong though?
27 June 2012, 05:27 PM
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Maybe, but he's also a democratically elected representative of his community - like it or not, through him goes the path to peace and security
btw we were no angels!!
27 June 2012, 05:36 PM
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27 June 2012, 11:07 PM
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9/11 was a significant turning point in my opinion for republican terrorism, in that the many of those who bankrolled their activities ended up in the rubble of the twin towers.
McGuinness is the deputy first minister and an elected representative, the Queen could not have avoided shaking his hand, but, did anyone pick up on his attempt to speak to Price Philip where Prince Philip appeared to turn away from him and walk off, leaving McGuinness looking a bit frozen out?
I have experienced the ruthlessness of his former organisation first hand; personally I despise what McGuinness represents, but would I rather have my children grow up the in the Northern Ireland we have today than where we were 30 years ago, if that means myself and others leaving the past where it belongs, then I think we must do so for the greater good.
McGuinness is the deputy first minister and an elected representative, the Queen could not have avoided shaking his hand, but, did anyone pick up on his attempt to speak to Price Philip where Prince Philip appeared to turn away from him and walk off, leaving McGuinness looking a bit frozen out?
I have experienced the ruthlessness of his former organisation first hand; personally I despise what McGuinness represents, but would I rather have my children grow up the in the Northern Ireland we have today than where we were 30 years ago, if that means myself and others leaving the past where it belongs, then I think we must do so for the greater good.
27 June 2012, 11:28 PM
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9/11 was a significant turning point in my opinion for republican terrorism, in that the many of those who bankrolled their activities ended up in the rubble of the twin towers.
McGuinness is the deputy first minister and an elected representative, the Queen could not have avoided shaking his hand, but, did anyone pick up on his attempt to speak to Price Philip where Prince Philip appeared to turn away from him and walk off, leaving McGuinness looking a bit frozen out?
I have experienced the ruthlessness of his former organisation first hand; personally I despise what McGuinness represents, but would I rather have my children grow up the in the Northern Ireland we have today than where we were 30 years ago, if that means myself and others leaving the past where it belongs, then I think we must do so for the greater good.
McGuinness is the deputy first minister and an elected representative, the Queen could not have avoided shaking his hand, but, did anyone pick up on his attempt to speak to Price Philip where Prince Philip appeared to turn away from him and walk off, leaving McGuinness looking a bit frozen out?
I have experienced the ruthlessness of his former organisation first hand; personally I despise what McGuinness represents, but would I rather have my children grow up the in the Northern Ireland we have today than where we were 30 years ago, if that means myself and others leaving the past where it belongs, then I think we must do so for the greater good.
I agree those living the past wanting to bring up all the historical issues have to move on now. Peace is the better path and no doubt Ireland and the UK is far better for it. The US has blood on their hands for their meddlings, maybe one day they'll learn that once and for all...after all 9/11 is a shining example of the blowback of the US's global meddlings, its a pity they didn't learn from that.
US and global issues aside, we only have to see the pathetic attempts of splinter groups trying to kick up s*** to realise how unpopular it is on BOTH sides between everyday folk, where the majority want to just get on with their lives without some knuckle dragger separatists kicking up a riot and throwing petrol bombs at any form of authority because they want to blame someone on their situation. And truth be known...life's what you make it by yourself by your choices, not by someone else's (government, army, police or otherwise).
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