Pandering to the Muslims again!
15 January 2015, 10:48 PM
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15 January 2015, 10:57 PM
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15 January 2015, 11:12 PM
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Perhaps, but the point of the video was merely to show that, in this instance, no one made it an Muslim issue but the Muslim.
15 January 2015, 11:19 PM
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Your comment could be taken as some, means a portion of the population (the entirety of people marrying young girls) are sick, or by some, you mean just some of those who marry young girls, not all of them.
If your issue is with the age, then it would be fair for me to use my life as an example (the act of marriage aside), as it falls within what you seemed to be saying. It's not me putting words into your mouth, or insinuating anything. If however, there was more to your point, then maybe you should have spelled out exactly what you meant.
16 January 2015, 12:03 AM
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What conclusion did you want me to draw based on the highlighted part of your quote?
Your comment could be taken as some, means a portion of the population (the entirety of people marrying young girls) are sick, or by some, you mean just some of those who marry young girls, not all of them.
If your issue is with the age, then it would be fair for me to use my life as an example (the act of marriage aside), as it falls within what you seemed to be saying. It's not me putting words into your mouth, or insinuating anything. If however, there was more to your point, then maybe you should have spelled out exactly what you meant.
Your comment could be taken as some, means a portion of the population (the entirety of people marrying young girls) are sick, or by some, you mean just some of those who marry young girls, not all of them.
If your issue is with the age, then it would be fair for me to use my life as an example (the act of marriage aside), as it falls within what you seemed to be saying. It's not me putting words into your mouth, or insinuating anything. If however, there was more to your point, then maybe you should have spelled out exactly what you meant.
If you think its fine to arrange for 16 year old girls to get married to men in their twenties with a cash incentive then fine.(i suspect you may not, but correct as you feel fit) I on the other hand think it's wrong, very wrong.
I would even go as far as saying a girl of 16 with consent shouldn't get married either. Its a time in your life of big change and the start of adulthood and i think someone 8ish years or so into that journey should not be mixing it with a GIRL, not a woman.
MAN and WOMAN........GIRL and BOY.
16 January 2015, 12:29 AM
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I'm personally not all that comfortable with arranged marriages at all, regardless of the reason (or which culture it is happening within, because this is by far not just restricted to Muslims). In my ideal world, people would choose their own partners, and it would be motivated by love blah blah blah. But that is just my opinion.
However, whilst I might not necessarily agree with the practice/motivation, I just don't feel it makes people 'sick *******s'.
And more generally, I don't think a person in their early twenties hooking up with someone 16/17/18 is sick either, obviously. So long as the older person is respectful of the fact that it is a time of big changes as you put it, and is supportive, not trying to hinder growth as a person, then there is no reason that there should be an issue. If there is, then perhaps that partnership would be wrong, no matter what the ages of those concerned are.
However, whilst I might not necessarily agree with the practice/motivation, I just don't feel it makes people 'sick *******s'.
And more generally, I don't think a person in their early twenties hooking up with someone 16/17/18 is sick either, obviously. So long as the older person is respectful of the fact that it is a time of big changes as you put it, and is supportive, not trying to hinder growth as a person, then there is no reason that there should be an issue. If there is, then perhaps that partnership would be wrong, no matter what the ages of those concerned are.
16 January 2015, 11:36 AM
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Regardless of the character assassinations, for me it, she just highlighted, quite succinctly, how certain things can be turned into a big issue when actually the underlying issue has little or nothing to do with a minority group and it happens either side of the fence. In the video I posted a Muslim student chose to speak out about a Muslim ideology when the panel were there to discuss the deaths of 4 of American citizens in Benghazi. In your article by the Independent, a Conservative MP made it an issue when it was more to do with broadening the market for their books. It's political correctness gone mad on both sides of the spectrum.
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16 January 2015, 12:43 PM
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16 January 2015, 11:19 PM
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Room for one more?
I've got beer....
Yes he was!
I saw him on the telly years ago and he looks a bit like Robert Powell.
I've got beer....
I saw him on the telly years ago and he looks a bit like Robert Powell.
26 January 2015, 05:34 PM
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Islam is able to evade all responsibility for anything like this. Anything which could be seen as 'negative' is incorporated into a discourse which uses phrases like "they are not true Muslims", "Islam is not a monolith", "xxx is nothing to do with Islam" etc. But Islam always takes full credit for anything good associated with Islam using full cognitive dissonance.
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