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Old 03 April 2014, 07:11 PM
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30 year smoker here, changed to Vaping a month ago and not lit one since.

Anyone else?
Old 03 April 2014, 07:20 PM
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Well done - keep it up

Stopped last May. Tried an "E" but made me cough so just did without.

Now mildly addicted to Nicotine Lozengers but I suppose that's better than the real thing

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Old 03 April 2014, 07:22 PM
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Quit since 3rd jan! Used elites from highest mg to lowest mg in a month and been off since! But only smoked for 10years!
Find I get cravings still, and some situations all I can think of is ciggi! Haha but mind over matter!

Good luck with the cleaner smoking side!!
Old 03 April 2014, 07:25 PM
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Won't be long before all these e cigarettes are all banned in public
Old 03 April 2014, 07:28 PM
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My wife has been using one for about 4 months and hasn't touch one cigarette. More impressive is my mother has been a 60-a-day hardened smoker for longer than i can remember, she started vaping 2 months ago and has kept with it, that's inspiration for anyone right there!
Old 03 April 2014, 07:34 PM
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Been on mine since November, Started on Tobacco flavour but wasn't keen, Tripple menthol is quite refreshing & stuck with that one
Old 03 April 2014, 08:37 PM
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Well done, Jack. I see that something very positive got kicked off during your Sabbatical from here i.e. you switching to e-cigs. Well done, and continue with your effort.
Old 03 April 2014, 08:45 PM
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Tell you what though, I'm totally addicted to Vaping. Spent a small fortune on different batteries and atomisers, even bought a magnifying glass and a gas burner so I could rebuild the coils.

Yes, SteveBT, they will be controlled and that's a good thing, but not in public, just in places where smoking is banned. It's pretty awesome right now though, I vaped on the plane all the way to Mexico and back with permission from the crew and right now I'm vaping in my hotel room leaving nothing but the smell of Gummy Bears.
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Originally Posted by Justme103
Been on mine since November, Started on Tobacco flavour but wasn't keen, Tripple menthol is quite refreshing & stuck with that one
I started on Tobacco myself, it was OK, tried a few more and didn't like them, then tried Coffee's and can't find a good one of those. Current favourites are anything from Mount Baker Vapor www.cloudhousevapor.com and I've had a couple from here http://www.thealchemistscupboard.co.uk and they've both been good.
Old 03 April 2014, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
Won't be long before all these e cigarettes are all banned in public
It may happen in Wales soon.

from me.
Old 03 April 2014, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
It may happen in Wales soon.

from me.
And thumbs up from me.
Old 03 April 2014, 09:26 PM
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I'm not sure congratulations is really the right word to use, if it's taken you three entire decades to figure out it's a filthy smeggy habit, but well done for giving up anyway
Old 03 April 2014, 09:31 PM
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We need to tax these things ........
Old 03 April 2014, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by David Lock
Well done - keep it up

Stopped last May. Tried an "E" but made me cough so just did without.

Now mildly addicted to Nicotine Lozengers but I suppose that's better than the real thing

dl
Just wait until you get onto the Extra Strong Mints

I did much the same, tried E-Cigarettes but soon realised I was actually getting much more nicotine from them than I had been from my roll ups so moved on to the lozenges. Extra Strong Mints are doing a good job of weaning me off the lozenges but I don't half get through them I'm thinking of Polos to get off the Extra Strong ones
Old 03 April 2014, 09:33 PM
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Tax back maybe
Old 03 April 2014, 10:22 PM
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been vaping 5 year in september ,,,,, the healthy way to chain smoke ,,,lol ,,,
Old 03 April 2014, 11:02 PM
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You have no idea what you're talking about Mart.
Old 03 April 2014, 11:31 PM
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He's right in the sense that it's just swapping one habit for another. Just the new habit isn't smelly and it's 'safer' than smoking proper cigarettes.
Old 03 April 2014, 11:50 PM
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My take on nictotine is its like alcohol. If you are addicted, well, you're addicted.

Its better than cigarettes. Not as good as giving up totally.

Smoking killed my grandad
And it caused my Uncle's fatal cancer.
Pretty certain it had somthing to do with my other grandad's throat cancer (survived that only to be killed by a undiagnosed kidney infection...nice one NHS )
Its also killing my Grandma now

Sure, long term alcohol abuse killed my dad too (also my aunty). So yeah, I am aware that any addiction has its consequences. But if it can be offset or reduced and not affect third parties, it is an improvement, isn't it ?
Old 03 April 2014, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
But if it can be offset or reduced and not affect third parties, it is an improvement, isn't it ?
Suppose it depends on IF there are any long term health implications. At one time, smoking wasn't considered to be dangerous to health.
Old 04 April 2014, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mart360
Lol, for your info i smoked 20 a day for 24 years, so id say i know pretty much what its like to be addicted.

I gave up, remember those two words "GAVE UP" smoking 14 years ago,
so no longer addicted to nicotine,

When your a smoker, you don't give a toss about the health risks , nothing comes between you and your hit of nicotine.

All you've done is removed the dangerous bit, so you can get your hit of nicotine risk free, your still addicted to nicotine.

Also do you really know whats in the cocktail of stuff your vaping?
do some research on whats been found in some of the products on offer ..

diethylene glycol ... hmm thats used in anti freeze & nitrosamines there carcinogenic btw,

Likewise the concentrations of nicotine found in the refills.

Spill a few drops on your fingers, it doesn't matter if you wash your hands, nicotine is absorbed through the skin, so another hit there ..
and it doesn't take that much to be fatal!

The industry is already saying it doesn't know the full health risks of vaping at this stage, which is pretty worrying.

But hey what do i know, your 6 additional years, makes you the expert, so enjoy it while you can

Mart
well diethylene glycol isn't used in the manufacture of e-cigerettes - yes diethylene glycol is dangerous, but it is more likeley to be found in Austrian wine than e-cigerettes,,

Mart ,if you did some proper research on the subject instead of reading propaganda rubbish you will find the the e-liquid is made up of propylene glycol and or vegetable glycerin,nocotine(same stuff that goes into patches)& propylene glycol based flavours,,,,,i know this not just by making my own liquid but also by knowing many people who work in the ecig industry ...

as for nicotine ,,yes nicotine can be poisonous in high dosage but in ecigs the nicotine levels are more closer the those found in potato's ,tomato's, or aubergines,and any other food stuff belonging to the nightshade family..
Old 04 April 2014, 02:20 AM
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Devils advocate here.

Isn't vaping a bit like a heroin user saying" I've not had heroin for months but been on methadone".

Still not technically kicking the habit
Old 04 April 2014, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Ant
Devils advocate here.

Isn't vaping a bit like a heroin user saying" I've not had heroin for months but been on methadone".

Still not technically kicking the habit
I'm still happier my dad, who had smoked for 40 years and regularly smoked over 40 a day, has switched to vaping 4 weeks ago and not touched a cigarette since. He was concerned it was more convenient as he could use it anywhere, so he still goes outside at his home to use it, same in public places. He's also been gradually reducing the strengths, but still enjoys vaping so will probably carry on with nicotine free liquids eventually. It's also saving him £70 a week over smoking.

The only losers I can see are the tobacco industry and the government with loss of taxes. Hopefully we will start to see a reduction in the cost to the NHS in the next few decades though that will begin to offset this.
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Country is such a nanny state.Ban real smoking in public,now is talk of banning E Cigs in public places.

A few guys at work use them,and say they are a help.
Old 04 April 2014, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
He's right in the sense that it's just swapping one habit for another. Just the new habit isn't smelly and it's 'safer' than smoking proper cigarettes.
A bit like swapping to Coke from Jack Daniels and Coke. You still want the caffeine but not the **** that's alcohol.
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Jack presumably you're stuck on Apple flavour?
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Originally Posted by RJMS
Just wait until you get onto the Extra Strong Mints

I did much the same, tried E-Cigarettes but soon realised I was actually getting much more nicotine from them than I had been from my roll ups so moved on to the lozenges. Extra Strong Mints are doing a good job of weaning me off the lozenges but I don't half get through them I'm thinking of Polos to get off the Extra Strong ones
nononono.

Use these

Old 04 April 2014, 01:59 PM
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All this talk of plain white packaging for cigarettes, or covering them with horrible pics etc - why don't they just ban them now....?

OK give everyone 2 years etc - just announce that in 2 years time that's it, no more, nada - gone for good.

yes there will be a black market - but it will still make them difficult for kids to get hold of... and more of a pain for everyone else....

Don't understand the ******* about with it all myself..... we all know they are long term killers....
(a bit like motorbikes )
Old 04 April 2014, 02:18 PM
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If they were like bikes, they'd be perfectly safe - except every 1 in 10000 or so, which would be rigged to explode in your face.

I wonder whether that would make them more or less popular?
Old 04 April 2014, 02:33 PM
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They should ban alcohol too, that's 30,000 deaths per year and who knows how much it costs the NHS every weekend. As someone who doesn't really drink and certainly wouldn't miss it I say crack on.


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