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Old 27 January 2015, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by EOEUMC
Will give them a call Ta

I went for a non return as well. No hardship in emptying it once a year maybe. As it does about 3000 miles a year anyway

Hose lengths. I was looking at 5 meters of each, 12mm and 15/16mm. Am I looking at way too much and if so how much you reckon? tank will either go where the gap is next to the air box or opposite side near nattery attached to the fan belt cover.
5 meters !!!! Why on earth would you want 5 meters of each


You seem dead set on using braided hose so I'll give you a vital tip...

Get the catch can fitted first of all. Once fitted measure the exact lengths of hose you require, remembering you need one from each rocker cover and one from the crank case near the turbo.
Once you have these measurements ask the company you are getting it from to cut it to those lengths.
Braided hose is a **** to cut neatly unless you've got the right equipment.

I still can't see how you can get decent quality braided hose cheaper than silicone. I must be looking in the wrong places
Old 27 January 2015, 10:21 PM
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Not dead set on braided but seems to be better priced than silicone and I just thought it would last a while being re-enforced And I can get 12mm at £1.95 p/m. Got to get another price for the 15mm yet.
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Originally Posted by EOEUMC
Not dead set on braided but seems to be better priced than silicone and I just thought it would last a while being re-enforced And I can get 12mm at £1.95 p/m. Got to get another price for the 15mm yet.
£1.95 per meter ???? That seems awfully cheap, where's that from ??
Old 28 January 2015, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
£1.95 per meter ???? That seems awfully cheap, where's that from ??
Here

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261741668141
Old 28 January 2015, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by EOEUMC
Might be a difference of ideas on braided hoses?
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorsport/fuel-hose/automotive-plumbing-solutions-sl200-series-stainless-braided-oil-fuel-hose
Old 28 January 2015, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by EOEUMC
That isn't the braided hose I was expecting. That's just hose pipe, should work though. That's pretty much what comes in the cheap catch can kits you get, I had a few meters from an old kit but threw it away.
Old 28 January 2015, 02:46 PM
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lol
Old 28 January 2015, 07:38 PM
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Red face

What a pain in the butt!

Both places I have found for the hose don't have the 16mm in red! arggghhhh

And I presume vacum hose wont be any good either?

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Old 28 January 2015, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Think you've seen mine but here it is anyway.

Fitted where the air con pump would be...

Lol what's the can of red bull all about then?
Old 28 January 2015, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
Lol what's the can of red bull all about then?


It's just wrapped around the wiper motor. It's something I did many many years ago on the first impreza I owned and it's a bit of a tradition now. First thing that gets mentioned between my pals when I buy a new one is when's the can going on....
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Find out the measurement of the crank case breather, the one on mine is bigger than 15/16mm.

Excuse the cheap pipe work to the catch can, I wasn't forking out 20-30 quid on silicon hose to then cut a length too short. It's due to be replaced, and re-routed.

Catch can is on the NS strut tower.


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Originally Posted by MattyB1983


It's just wrapped around the wiper motor. It's something I did many many years ago on the first impreza I owned and it's a bit of a tradition now. First thing that gets mentioned between my pals when I buy a new one is when's the can going on....
joker!
Old 29 January 2015, 09:09 AM
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Cheers Micky

So do I presume right about the vacuum hose before I buy other?
Old 29 January 2015, 08:26 PM
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I'm not sure, is vacuum hose even available in the sizes required?

The cheap shite that I've used is fish tank hose, IIRC. It's discoloured a bit, due to the oil and heat, other than that it's fine. Vac pipe might well be fine in that case.

RE the vent, I just ran mine down the chassis towards the back of the car, didn't bother with a filter.
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Yes you can get vacuum hose in big sizes, however from my experience with larger diameter vacuum hose it has a tendency to kink when routing it around the bay, even more so when it gets hot. You're best off using something with a thicker wall.

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Originally Posted by mickywrx
I'm not sure, is vacuum hose even available in the sizes required?

The cheap shite that I've used is fish tank hose, IIRC. It's discoloured a bit, due to the oil and heat, other than that it's fine. Vac pipe might well be fine in that case.

RE the vent, I just ran mine down the chassis towards the back of the car, didn't bother with a filter.
I looked and saw the bigger hose in the vacuum pipe sizes.
I will get a breather filter for the top I think


Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Yes you can get vacuum hose in big sizes, however from my experience with larger diameter vacuum hose it has a tendency to kink when routing it around the bay, even more so when it gets hot. You're best off using something with a thicker wall.
I did wonder about the vacuum pipe due to its flex, which is why I presumed it couldn't be used but not shouldn't be used.

It looks like I will probably be going for the clear braided hose. Maybe if the car behaves (for once) I will treat it later down the line
Old 30 January 2015, 10:18 AM
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Just had a quick measure up for pipe work.

I'm thinking 2 meters of 13mm and 1 meter of 16mm.

Does this sound about right?

Thanks guys
Old 30 January 2015, 08:12 PM
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That'll be plenty. The old adage of buy cheap buy twice, doesn't really apply here.

I'm sure most people would rather chop a metre of £2 hose too short than a metre of £20 hose.
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Originally Posted by mickywrx
That'll be plenty. The old adage of buy cheap buy twice, doesn't really apply here.

I'm sure most people would rather chop a metre of £2 hose too short than a metre of £20 hose.
That's fine, I'm going to order some now then

Thanks Micky
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Can you post some pics up EOEUMC when you have it fitted plz,have you got the obp can?
I have a 3 port baffled catch can for my classic which I will be fitting when I get time.
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I think Glen is getting one from Rich(type-ellis) on here.
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Originally Posted by mickywrx
I think Glen is getting one from Rich(type-ellis) on here.
Cheers
So I would be looking at getting the same length of pipe work but possibly different diameter. Also would be interested to see where/how Glen mounts the can.
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Can you post some pics up EOEUMC when you have it fitted plz,have you got the obp can?
I have a 3 port baffled catch can for my classic which I will be fitting when I get time.
I certainly will mate

Originally Posted by mickywrx
I think Glen is getting one from Rich(type-ellis) on here.
You are correct there Micky £55 delivered and internally baffled, and that's not just my brain

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Originally Posted by mickywrx
That'll be plenty. The old adage of buy cheap buy twice, doesn't really apply here.

I'm sure most people would rather chop a metre of £2 hose too short than a metre of £20 hose.
Or just buy the proper stuff and cut it correctly first time
Measure twice and cut once. Like i said earlier, fit the can in its final position before ordering hose. You can then use a tape measure to work out the exact lengths (a paper tape measure is ideal). I've been there and done it with doing things on the cheap and I've got 3 meters of braided hose and 3 meters of cheap vacuum hose in the garage somewhere from past catch can experiences
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I measured today and the 13mm hose would come in around 2 meters, just. So I ordered 3 meters. The 16mm hose is around 2 foot I need, so I ordered 1 meter. Should be fine
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Originally Posted by EOEUMC
I measured today and the 13mm hose would come in around 2 meters, just. So I ordered 3 meters. The 16mm hose is around 2 foot I need, so I ordered 1 meter. Should be fine
You'll have plenty fella
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I went for a cheap ebay catch can on my v1 sti and plumbed it in with "ash" hoses it's only a 2 port but the filter outlet is the same dia as the ports , so I originally intended on fitting the 3rd breather to the filter outlet .

I ended up "T" ing the cam breathers together to retain the filter as I was unsure if the breather system should be sealed , deleting the charcoal canister and fitting a v3 /v4 icv (to reroute it's pipework) so I could remove all the excessive pipework under the inlet manifold


Only issue I've had is the occasional wiff of oil in the cabin due to the position of the can (near the heater intake under the windscreen)

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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Or just buy the proper stuff and cut it correctly first time
I cut the cheap crap too short on the first pipe.

Mine will get re-done when the manifold gets rotated. I'm planning on moving the catch can anyway, as it was an early one from Rich and doesn't have a sight tube on it.
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Originally Posted by savage bulldogs
fitting a v3 /v4 icv (to reroute it's pipework) so I could remove all the excessive pipework under the inlet manifold
From the angle of the pic, it looks like you'd tee'd the head breathers in with the ICV feed.

I was thinking WTF!?! until I looked closely, and noticed in the text that you had fitted the later ICV.
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Yeah the v3/v4 icv is the same as the v1/v2 apart from the direction of the take off pipe and fitting that allowed me to totally remove all pipework under the inlet ,well all pipework bar one tank ventilation pipe which now vents under the d/s front inner wing .

Don't mean to hijack but does anybody run a sealed catch can that doesn't return to sump and if so any pressure issues ?

As I might either relocate the catch can away from the heater intake or use the filter exit off the catch can as the 3rd port and tidy the pipework up a bit

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