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Old 26 November 2011, 04:06 PM
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Default New short shift doesn't fit - any ideas?

Hi guys,

I bought a short shifter from Bren at apex performance and it was only today that I had chance to fit it. I fitted it but the gear change linkage rod hits the body work. I removed the plate and was ready to cut the section out as I knew they would hit but its hitting the actual car body. It wouldnt even into gear properly so had to remove it and refit the stock one.

Has anyone had this before and what was the solution? Its a 2002 bugeye.

Are there any other short shifters that I could get that someone has definitely managed to fit properly?

This is the link to the original one I bought to show you what it looks like.

https://www.scoobynet.com/trader-ann...save-50-a.html

Any help would be much appreciated.
Old 26 November 2011, 04:35 PM
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Got a perrin short shifter on my bugeye. Mines a six speed but they do a five aswell.
http://www.perrinperformance.com/sub...hifter-adapter
Old 26 November 2011, 04:48 PM
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ive got a cdf short shifter and works fine
short answer get a decent one

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Old 26 November 2011, 05:04 PM
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They do hit, but all you have to do is bend it slightly.
I have the CDF one and when I set it up, it set it just slightly lower to not hit.
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So is the one from CDF adjustable?
Old 26 November 2011, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoobyno1
So is the one from CDF adjustable?
yes mate
Old 26 November 2011, 07:13 PM
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You contacted Bren? He's VERY approachable and will help if he can......
Old 26 November 2011, 07:19 PM
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Yep, I have pm'd him but not sure what he can do unless he can take it back. If not then I may have to try and sell it on and get something else?
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Yeah CDF one very good.
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Originally Posted by chronicK
Got a perrin short shifter on my bugeye. Mines a six speed but they do a five aswell.
http://www.perrinperformance.com/sub...hifter-adapter
Bought a second hand one of these and that doesn't fit. Its too wide to be bolted to the linkage rod. Its starting to get me down now

I've decided to go for a CDF one now, but need to know if it'll fit?

On the one that I got from Bren, it had two lengths of spacers so it was useable on the ones that had both the narrower and wider linkage connections. Does that make sense?

Any one got any ideas if you could let me know asap, plus I've got this Perrin one for sale if any one wants it?

Cheers
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Anyone?
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Had a look at Perrin instructions, is it that yours has the optional factory short shifter already? http://www.perrinperformance.com/sha.../pspinr200.pdf
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No mate, mines just a standard stick. The perrinn adaptor fits over the OEM stick no problem its when you then have to remove the bushings and little tube thingy from the stock lever and transfer them (as shown in those instruction) its way too wide and won't fit. Even without the blue bushings, its still too wide.

If possible can someone measure the width (the way the bolt goes through) on their CDF shifter so I can see if it'll fit.
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ive the cdf one and really pleased give Chris a ring on www.cdfracing.co.uk 01634 817255 on monday and he will give you the dimensions,
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Took a picture of the perrin one and its about an inch and half, just under, but my stock one measures just over inch and quarter.
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Can someone quickly measure the pivot point on their CDF one, the direction the M8 bolt goes through, it'll only take 5 mins if someone could, if you're not sure which part I mean then I can take a picture of my stock shifter if that'll help.

You'll be doing me a massive favour.
Old 13 December 2016, 02:38 PM
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Thread resurrection but I had this same issue on my 04 Forester XT. Perrin 5 speed adapter was too wide.

Emailed CDF and Chris confirmed widest part of their short shift is 35mm. I'm going to remeasure my linkage and hopefully order one
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I had to trim my 06 WRX shell slightly to make the CDF unit fit and move correctly.
Old 13 December 2016, 03:05 PM
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Why don't company's make them to fit properly
Old 13 December 2016, 03:08 PM
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Tell me about it. Don't get me started on CDF issues. Christ!
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Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
Tell me about it. Don't get me started on CDF issues. Christ!
That would turn into a 20pager if you went in to the **** they sell lol
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Originally Posted by JGlanzaV
That would turn into a 20pager if you went in to the **** they sell lol
If a company can't make things fit or fit for purpose then they should take them off sale and redesign them,makes no sense at all to keep on selling crap when you have to redesign the car to make it usable! Fecking annoying
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Tell me about it. I've either had to modify every CDF item I've purchased to date, modify the car to make them fit or send them back multiple times for rectifying or replacing. Feels like I'm doing the development work for Chris sometimes.
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Bin the CDF short shift idea then? Anyone recommend a suitable alternative?
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Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
Tell me about it. I've either had to modify every CDF item I've purchased to date, modify the car to make them fit or send them back multiple times for rectifying or replacing. Feels like I'm doing the development work for Chris sometimes.
Why develop something yourself when people pay you to do it for you
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Originally Posted by averyp2
Bin the CDF short shift idea then? Anyone recommend a suitable alternative?


Once my CDF quick shift was fitted and I'd trimmed the car to get full movement it worked very well indeed. However, to stop myself getting back ache (as the lever was actually too short when installed) I had to make a bespoke turned thread adaptor to lengthen the lever back to near standard height. Once fitted it was much better and I enjoyed driving it.


I would also note that the mounting bolt was too small diameter for the bush fitted to the lever. Wasn't right.


All in all you shouldn't have to re-engineer all these parts to get them to fit and work right. IMO CDF just haven't spent enough time designing the parts. Fair enough they must have some nice CNC mills at their place, but IMO not enough time spent engineering the products before selling them.


Don't get me started on the other CDF problems I had.


Rant over!!!
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Originally Posted by ossett2k2
Why don't company's make them to fit properly
It'll take the fun and tears out of the whole modification process if they did that bro

I've found one of these in my brothers car recently I'll put some pics up of its any use to anyone..

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