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Old 03 December 2015, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ossett2k2
thought it was an actual 3d map as shown in this pic,not surprised I can't get that view then lol!

Looks just like megasquirt boost control map!
Old 03 December 2015, 11:08 AM
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Think it probably is @boosted but I'm sure you can get this 3D view up on ESL,from what I read in the manual,you have to make sure that both perameters are selected in logging and have the logging on,I've tried it a few different ways but still can't get this view up?
Old 03 December 2015, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ossett2k2
Think it probably is @boosted but I'm sure you can get this 3D view up on ESL,from what I read in the manual,you have to make sure that both perameters are selected in logging and have the logging on,I've tried it a few different ways but still can't get this view up?
With megasquirt you can adjust the 3d maps whilst moving the cursor crosshairs over the desired area then pressing shift you can arrow up and down to increase/decrease timing/boost/fuel/accel enrich/warm up enrich etc. very user freindly indeed.
Old 03 December 2015, 11:37 AM
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99/00 is up and running mafless but we don't have the twin maps finished, and the cables are prototype.

I will cover different fuels in twin maps.

Cheers.
Old 03 December 2015, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by boosted
With megasquirt you can adjust the 3d maps whilst moving the cursor crosshairs over the desired area then pressing shift you can arrow up and down to increase/decrease timing/boost/fuel/accel enrich/warm up enrich etc. very user freindly indeed.
Nice one,I will have another play when I get some spare time,I need to fit the 3 port bcs soon so will spend the day playing with ESL
Old 04 December 2015, 11:51 PM
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You gonna go to the ESL course?
Old 05 December 2015, 08:31 AM
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Just popped on for my once a year nosey
Great job andy for offering and doing the course
Looks like a pretty comprehensive and interesting day
Old 05 December 2015, 11:04 AM
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Unfortunately for me and work commitments I won't be attending this one.
I'm a definite for the future as I'm sure there will be many more to come.
It's great software to use and a perfect upgrade with plenty of bells and whistles
Offering a course is a great opportunity to learn more.

If this is going to be a future option when buying ESL I'm sure there will be many more courses to come,even more so now it looks like the 99/00 version might be out soon.

Have a great time lads,let us all know how it goes.

I wish you well Andy and hope to see you in the near future.
Old 06 December 2015, 11:22 AM
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Andy do we have a start time for the day? Its a 2hr drive for me so I may stay over the night before if its earlier than 9am. Do I have to register on facebook?
Old 06 December 2015, 09:18 PM
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Ive replied to your email andy.
Old 06 December 2015, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Welloilbeefhooked
Andy do we have a start time for the day? Its a 2hr drive for me so I may stay over the night before if its earlier than 9am. Do I have to register on facebook?
Hi Wayne, probably aim for 9am-6pm, but I'll be setting up from 7 as alot of lads are into Stansted from Ireland at 6am. The Hallmark is where its at, the Ramada one junction away is cheaper. If you are on facebook it's worth joining the group for updates. You can book on now at the website shop.
Old 06 December 2015, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by toneh
Just popped on for my once a year nosey
Great job andy for offering and doing the course
Looks like a pretty comprehensive and interesting day
Cheers Toneh.
Old 06 December 2015, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by gazzawrx
Ive replied to your email andy.
Sent one back, Cheers Gazza.
Old 04 January 2016, 11:24 AM
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Just a couple of places left now, we have a full room, looking forward to meeting you all.
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Just to update SN on this, Piehole1983 and I flew in from NI to attend this yesterday.
Spent the day getting a thorough rundown of the ESL software and how to make best use of it. The course was well structured , packed with info , and full of very interesting Q&A sessions. Personally I found it invaluable and would def recommend it to anyone with an interest in dabbling with DIY.
It's pretty incredible to hear the story of how these guys reverse engineered the OEM code to get to where they are today and to actually meet them was pretty cool.
Big thanks to Andy , Spencer , Dom and Gavin on all the effort put in to deliver what was genuinely a thoroughly interesting and informative day!






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Old 27 January 2016, 09:45 AM
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Thanks for coming all that way, great to meet you and glad you enjoyed it.
Old 27 January 2016, 09:48 AM
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Old 30 January 2016, 01:11 PM
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Quick question for the guys that were on the course, how transferable do you think what you've learnt would be to other mapping applications? I'm quite interested in doing something like this but having a newage car limits the application for the ESL specific stuff.

Cheers
Old 30 January 2016, 01:53 PM
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I think you would gain a general appreciation, but as ESL is used as the example system and is live mappable and the OEM options for newage cars are not, the actual mapping process would be more labourious for your application.

We may extend/run another course for opensource mapping of the flashable OEM ECU in time.
Old 11 February 2016, 08:54 PM
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anyone travelling down from north who could maybe sort me a lift, fuel paid etc?
Old 11 February 2016, 08:57 PM
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north being hull/Doncaster way?
Old 11 February 2016, 10:21 PM
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Does Tactrix OP2 work with ESL?
Old 12 February 2016, 11:04 AM
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sbn1979 - no you have to use the specific ESL mapping cable for your ECU type. Openports are for newage cars.
Old 13 February 2016, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by bludgod
sbn1979 - no you have to use the specific ESL mapping cable for your ECU type. Openports are for newage cars.
Ok thanks for the reply, so essentially you would need to buy either the SSM or OBD lead dependant on the year
Old 13 February 2016, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by sbn1979
Ok thanks for the reply, so essentially you would need to buy either the SSM or OBD lead dependant on the year
That's right
Old 13 February 2016, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by piehole1983
That's right
Would you know off the top of your head which lead covers which years? Thanks
Old 13 February 2016, 10:45 AM
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v3/v4 with facelift dash should be obd, port is on the lower right side of dash near steering column, pre facelift dash will be ssm
Old 13 February 2016, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by sean turbo2000
v3/v4 with facelift dash should be obd, port is on the lower right side of dash near steering column, pre facelift dash will be ssm
Thanks gents
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Originally Posted by sbn1979
Would you know off the top of your head which lead covers which years? Thanks
V3 still has pre facelift dash and can have OBD or SSM it seems, I believe V4 can also have SSM or OBD. In my case (97 UK Turbo) I have the pre facelift dash and SSM. You'll need to have a look at your own to be sure what you've got.

The SSM port is normally taped up out of the way under the steering column, slightly to the left if you're sitting in the car. It's near the green and black diagnostic connectors.
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You can buy SSM to OBD converters cheaply enough tho, about £4 if you need to go SSM - OBD


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