mappers and mapping..............discuss
08 April 2015, 08:27 PM
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Richard is now at the helm of Zen, I only learnt this yesterday morning when I went for a downpipe and fuel pump fitting and remap to suit. Had to come away with the car unmapped though as there seems to be a problem getting my car into test mode to write a map so can't pass judgement on how good the map is yet! 
08 April 2015, 09:58 PM
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Well I will say you can tell he's fitted enough downpipes, think it took him under an hour to fit including cutting the heatshield to suit!
I'm pleased you vouched for him and it definitely makes me feel better about it, I had my reservations as it was a bit offputting when everyone recommended me Paul at Zen but I got Richard at Zen when I arrived.
I'm pleased you vouched for him and it definitely makes me feel better about it, I had my reservations as it was a bit offputting when everyone recommended me Paul at Zen but I got Richard at Zen when I arrived.
27 April 2015, 06:05 PM
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I would say it helps a LOT if your chosen mapper has a well sorted tuners garage and tools for the inevitable little problems that arise on the day
,it makes the difference between getting mapped on the day or having to return for another slot,
any problems may have to sorted by a 3rd party mechanic or tuner,on another day
this includes MAF or sensor problems, plugs,coil(s),lambda and every other bloody sensor on the car lol.
,it makes the difference between getting mapped on the day or having to return for another slot,
any problems may have to sorted by a 3rd party mechanic or tuner,on another day
this includes MAF or sensor problems, plugs,coil(s),lambda and every other bloody sensor on the car lol.
27 April 2015, 06:34 PM
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I would say it helps a LOT if your chosen mapper has a well sorted tuners garage and tools for the inevitable little problems that arise on the day
,it makes the difference between getting mapped on the day or having to return for another slot,
any problems may have to sorted by a 3rd party mechanic or tuner,on another day
this includes MAF or sensor problems, plugs,coil(s),lambda and every other bloody sensor on the car lol.
,it makes the difference between getting mapped on the day or having to return for another slot,
any problems may have to sorted by a 3rd party mechanic or tuner,on another day
this includes MAF or sensor problems, plugs,coil(s),lambda and every other bloody sensor on the car lol.
True story, wouldn't be the first time I've had to swap maf/map/boost solenoid/O2 sensor or even a tgv sensor! Doing it in the car park is a pain in the butt - hard to beat having a garage full of tools and spares and warmth at your disposal!
09 May 2015, 03:12 PM
#66
How do you define a good mapper? Once your cars mapped really and truly you don't know whats going on unless you monitor and log. How many people do that?
Its very important to understand what the mapper actually changes, adjusts, which type of mods they have to work with and what issue they're dealing with.
When a car usually blows up mappers always get the finger, but people never see the underlying minor issue, like a split hose etc that may have caused the failure.
Personal experience has been varied, personally I think to get a perfect tune you need to spend time, a lot of mappers fail to do that unless you hire them for the day.
Its very important to understand what the mapper actually changes, adjusts, which type of mods they have to work with and what issue they're dealing with.
When a car usually blows up mappers always get the finger, but people never see the underlying minor issue, like a split hose etc that may have caused the failure.
Personal experience has been varied, personally I think to get a perfect tune you need to spend time, a lot of mappers fail to do that unless you hire them for the day.
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10 May 2015, 12:39 AM
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Group buy anybody lol.
One of my pet hates. I won't book group sessions as I feel it puts time limitations on a job that shouldn't have them.
I was told a story by a customer the other day of AN other mapper that aside from having his car strapped on the rollers, installed and mapped an Alcatek ecu in his Blobeye in 20 minutes.
No road test, job half done and the customer was left with a very nasty taste in his mouth.
Needless to say he won't be going back there.
One of my pet hates. I won't book group sessions as I feel it puts time limitations on a job that shouldn't have them.
I was told a story by a customer the other day of AN other mapper that aside from having his car strapped on the rollers, installed and mapped an Alcatek ecu in his Blobeye in 20 minutes.
No road test, job half done and the customer was left with a very nasty taste in his mouth.
Needless to say he won't be going back there.
10 May 2015, 04:53 PM
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Group buy anybody lol.
One of my pet hates. I won't book group sessions as I feel it puts time limitations on a job that shouldn't have them.
I was told a story by a customer the other day of AN other mapper that aside from having his car strapped on the rollers, installed and mapped an Alcatek ecu in his Blobeye in 20 minutes.
No road test, job half done and the customer was left with a very nasty taste in his mouth.
Needless to say he won't be going back there.
One of my pet hates. I won't book group sessions as I feel it puts time limitations on a job that shouldn't have them.
I was told a story by a customer the other day of AN other mapper that aside from having his car strapped on the rollers, installed and mapped an Alcatek ecu in his Blobeye in 20 minutes.
No road test, job half done and the customer was left with a very nasty taste in his mouth.
Needless to say he won't be going back there.
Can't beat the latest group buy mapping trend ! What are people thinking. The mind boggles
10 May 2015, 05:08 PM
#70
I would strongly advise people to read into mapping, maybe do a course, lots available, also look at safety equipment such as Failsafe wideband etc. It could really save you a engine.
The guy who maps my car now does Evo's but is spot on & I am always involved.
Last edited by KAS35RSTI; 10 May 2015 at 05:11 PM.
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