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Old 05 February 2010, 02:35   #1
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I will be fitting a small kitchen in the next few days, and it will involve a 90 degree join in two worktops, now in the past in rental flats I have used the joining strips, however in this one I want to stay away from them.


So the choices are to mitre the two worktops, which I haven't got the first clue how to do, but would very much like to learn as this wont be the last time I'm doing it. So has anyone got any experience in this that they can share?

The other option I was considering was getting square edged worktops and just butt jointing them with some clear silicone in between? Is this sufficient? Both lengths will be on top of cupboards so can be screwed upwards to give some strengthening as well.

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The joiners at work use a jig similar to this:

Forge Steel Worktop Jig 700mm - Screwfix.com, Where the Trade Buys

to give a tidy cut and tight joint.
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You'll need a worktop jig and a router (1/2 inch, with appropriate bit and guide bush) Provided the kitchen walls are relatively square and you follow the correct procedure it's not a complicated job and will give you far more pleasing finish.
It wouldn't make sense to invest in the kit unless you foresee you fitting a number of worktops (router=350ish jig=150ish bit=20-60ish) as you should be able to get someone in for about 60 a joint.
I would offer but don't think your very local.........and I'm very expensive
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If this is something youre going to using a number of times get the jig. If its a one off it can be done without a jig quite successfully (to DIY standards ). Cut a 50-70 mm chamfer at 45 deg on deco corner of end piece and cut the mating shape into front of joining piece, get someone to push them together while you run the saw through the join until you get it as perfect as you can. Then cut out slots underneath and fit two W\T joining bolts from B&Q.Give the cut surfaces a good coat of UPVA glue.

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You'll need a worktop jig and a router (1/2 inch, with appropriate bit and guide bush) Provided the kitchen walls are relatively square and you follow the correct procedure it's not a complicated job and will give you far more pleasing finish.
It wouldn't make sense to invest in the kit unless you foresee you fitting a number of worktops (router=350ish jig=150ish bit=20-60ish) as you should be able to get someone in for about 60 a joint.
I would offer but don't think your very local.........and I'm very expensive
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If this is something youre going to using a number of times get the jig. If its a one off it can be done without a jig quite successfully (to DIY standards ). Cut a 50-70 mm chamfer at 45 deg on deco corner of end piece and cut the mating shape into front of joining piece, get someone to push them together while you run the saw through the join until you get it as perfect as you can. Then cut out slots underneath and fit two W\T joining bolts from B&Q.Give the cut surfaces a good coat of UPVA glue.
Sorry, but unless you are very good that will look poor, and you'd be better of with jointing strips.
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OK, if by 'very good' you mean you can cut in a straight line. If not I still wouldn't use joining strips. They look carp and gather carp...

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OK, if by 'very good' you mean you can cut in a straight line. If not I still wouldn't use joining strips. They look carp and gather carp...
Maybe it's just the difference between an acceptable DIY job and a professional one?
My company supplies and installs kitchens, so I know how a good mason mitre joint should look. With the correct equipment and a skilled fitter, the joint should be virtually invisible.
If you can obtain that finish with hand tools then I am impressed, but i'm also certain that the majority of DIY'ers will not be able to do that and obtain a professional looking joint.

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I have just done this myself in my kitchen for the first time,i got a router from b and q for 30 inc the 30mm guide bush, set of bits for a tenner and borrowed a jig from my mates work,i have used various expensive routers before and was well inpressed with the router.

Have a look on you tube and watch it being done so you know exactly what to do,you will need some good clamps,take your time and its not hard,everywhere i go now i look at profesional joints and have not seen one as clean as mine and i am very fussy,my mate who is a house builder was impressed with it.

I would say give it a go if you can use your tools
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Find a local workshop who can do it, if someone popped in with cash we would mason mitre on our CNC for tea money
Alternatively if your not skilled with a router stick with a decent metal jointing strip.
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I've hired all the stuff i the past, as well as paying to et someone to do it.

this last time I bought the stuff from ScrewFix, router (70) Jigg (99) biscuit jointer (20) Bit (20) joining clamps (10)
now done THREE kitchens / work top cuts over a period of 18months-2year
so worth having my own stuff.
secret is to make sure the jigg is held well in place, also read the instruction diagram so you cut the correct side!! lol
AND makesure the BIT is well tight, mine came undun a liitle and made a mess of one edge, re did it and filled the slight miss cut (on the return bend) gap with some black silicone (dark colour worktop) looks fine.
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mason mitre from a local timber yard FTW
shouldn't cost the earth but will look the plums.
Anything else will look gash by comparison.
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It wouldn't make sense to invest in the kit unless you foresee you fitting a number of worktops (router=350ish jig=150ish bit=20-60ish)
There is no way on this earth you need to spend that if you are not doing them everyday.

Direct Power BP1020E 1020W Router - Screwfix.com, Where the Trade Buys

Unika Budget Worktop Jig - Screwfix.com, Where the Trade Buys

Titan Kitchen Fitters Set 4Pcs - Screwfix.com, Where the Trade Buys

Less than 85, might be able to find them cheaper. Take your time on the first one Cookstar, ones after that will be a piece of ****.
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