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Old 30 June 2004, 10:58 PM   #1
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Default How do you get smooth walls?

Having a new kitchen put in and the walls after now being painted look pretty shaby.

What's the best way of getting them smooth again?
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Old 30 June 2004, 11:20 PM   #2
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Plastering??

Use matt paint??
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Old 01 July 2004, 12:42 AM   #3
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Sanding or tile everything!
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Old 01 July 2004, 02:05 AM   #4
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get the walls skimmed, or learn how to paint
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Old 01 July 2004, 02:46 AM   #5
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If the plaster is any good, matt paint to highlight any irregularities and try sanding off the high spots and filling in any dinks.

If the plaster's knackered or not adhering, rip the lot off and get it replastered.

Alternative is any complex finish that breaks up straight lines. That covers most paint effects and wallpapers.

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Old 01 July 2004, 08:13 AM   #6
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if the plaster work is ok paint the walls in matt paint as it will make the walls look better than if you painted them with a vinyl silk im just gonna tile my kitchen as i couldnt get mine plastered before my kitchen went in
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Old 02 July 2004, 03:16 PM   #7
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Get the walls skimmed. Use a plasterer from a recommendation, there are some real crap ones out there!

Pay around 150 for a complete 12x12ft room, including ceiling.

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Old 02 July 2004, 03:19 PM   #8
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Dan,

Thats not a bad price but I would expect a little higher.. depends on condition of the ceiling, how much prep work.. acess to the room etc.. PVA can make a mess

I know as I have had to put it on for a mate who is a plasterer.

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Get the walls skimmed. Use a plasterer from a recommendation, there are some real crap ones out there!

Pay around 150 for a complete 12x12ft room, including ceiling.

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i would want 200ish for that size room depending on walls condition
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Old 02 July 2004, 09:33 PM   #10
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Or 4.50 for a bag of plaster and do it yourself
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Old 02 July 2004, 11:14 PM   #11
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Or 4.50 for a bag of plaster and do it yourself

i love it when i go into peeps houses who have tried this option always puts a smile on my face as i charge more money tp sort their mess out its not as easy as you think
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Old 02 July 2004, 11:46 PM   #12
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Steve your to cheap , 12 by 12 pva full room new angle beads on all angles , 350 But Im that cheap my self Im fully booked on large jobs for the rest of the year , cheers alan.
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Steve your to cheap , 12 by 12 pva full room new angle beads on all angles , 350 But Im that cheap my self Im fully booked on large jobs for the rest of the year , cheers alan.

errr i dont have time to do a room at the price i wrote ask me the same thing in a years time and ill tell you the same, ive stopped advertising in yellow pages as i have no time to do any jobs persimmon homes keep me busy 24/7
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steve only joking mate , alan.
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Steve......I find it very easy and your welcome to come and inspect anytime, when your not busy that is
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LOL...

I can plaster to an acceptable standard.. or so I thought.. until my mate started doing it for a living..

corgi.. do you leave watermarks? when plastering a wall where would you start?

And how long / how many mixes would it take you to do a hall stairs and landing on your own?

or how much plaster for a 'mix'

Alan.. shut it!

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I can plaster to an acceptable standard.. or so I thought.. until my mate started doing it for a living..

corgi.. do you leave watermarks? when plastering a wall where would you start?

And how long / how many mixes would it take you to do a hall stairs and landing on your own?

or how much plaster for a 'mix'

Alan.. shut it!

David (not taking the **** just trying to prove a point)

stairwell in a normal 3 bed semi is 1 man 1 day and lots of but thats me

david ive seen all the peeps wh can say they can do it


ive got someone working with me who has been plastering 13 years and he is one of the roughest people i have seen

i wouldnt recomend him to anyone but , persimmon are happy with him and ive told them ill wrap if they blame me for his work but they will not let me go

peoples idea of what a good job is totally different to what mine is,
but then i have something called pride in my work which is hard to find espescially when most peeps calling them selves plasterers are people like your self(no disrespect), i might not be able to do anything to an engine but im damned good on houses
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Steve we have 2 things in common I can not do any thing to a engine , But Im a very good Plasterer !!!! cheers mate Alan,
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Old 03 July 2004, 09:16 PM   #20
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If your kitchen units don't leave too much wall on show, you could try skimming them with something a bit less specialist, called Easyfill....8 a bag from B&Q, Dulux centres, etc. Like plaster, it's mixed with water, but it's more user friendly.....you can rub it down really easily, with a hand sander, if you don't manage to apply it smoothly with a caulking board. I'm a decorator and have to use this stuff over large areas occasionally when there isn't a plasterer available ( all too busy . There is a bit of a technique to it but it's not something you can't get the hang of quickly, though be aware it makes a lot of mess if you have to rub it down a great deal! Wouldn't really advise the use of matt paint in a kitchen, unless it's well ventilated and not subject to much mess....it's not the most hardwearing of finishes, and doesn't accept being wiped clean as well as silk. Just to add that if you use this stuff, you should apply a watered down coat of matt emulsion over it, as you would with new plaster, before painting it to a finish of your choosing.

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???????

if you can.. why not skim the bad bits of the walls etc with filla... sand down well.
then line the walls with lining paper.
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Old 05 July 2004, 07:49 PM   #22
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I renovate properties for a living and come across some absolutely Sh**e plastering at times. The one i'm working on now needs attention in every room.
As the current cost of a re skim is approx 200 - 250 per room around here what do is this...
Using a 3 inch (they're lighter) belt sander take off all the obvious high spots around the room.
Then using Polycell finishing skim plaster (Ready mixed around 15 tub) fill in all the low spots/holes/dings etc.
Next using a palm sander sand all the filler till smooth.
Wash down walls/ceiling.
Apply coat of cheap matt emulsion which will highlight more problems (that B&Q stuff at 10 for 10 Litres) with the plaster.
Refill and sand where neccessary.
Wash down again and apply quality emulsion (matt).

The secret with the Polycell is to keep the tools (Hawk,Trowell,Scraper etc) clean and wet for a smooth finish.

I actually employ someone to do this at the moment and cost wise at 4.00 hour + 1tub Polycell per room it's costing me around 95 per room.

Hope this helps,
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no expence spared then Dave lol
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Old 08 July 2004, 12:30 AM   #25
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Hope your employee is below 22 or you are paying below minimum wage!
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