pimmo2000

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35502030

Quite a few fan boys here so tell me, how does this not make apple a greedy monopolistic bunch of *******s?

Posted from an iphone 6s by the way.

Tidgy

Interesting. Winder how that will pan out legally, i know car dealers arn't allowed to do it.

dpb

Keep everything inhouse , build up a buffer against the inevitable android take over


iv spent less than 3 quid with apple so far

JackClark

I just knew one of you buffoons would post a link bait title to this story.

I'll take security over being able to pay a moody bloke to do a dodgy repair.

"Ruining small businesses" that's a cracker, creased me up.

Tidgy

While the ruining small businesses is rollox. The legality of it may well not be jack. How would you like it if you bought something and had to take it back to the seller for repairs?

Galifrey

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As long as it's an Apple product he wouldn't have it any other way

pimmo2000

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"link bait title" .. you click it .. so it worked ..

Security? someone fixing a screen? a button? seriously? there are thousands of little phone repair companies that survive on these little repairs.

What happens when the repairs stop coming in? er..? open your eyes.

**** sake

pimmo2000

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*added to ignore list .. ah that's better

gazzawrx

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Why is he a moody bloke, hes more than likely got the same technical skills that any apple tech has got and is more than capable to do the job, he dosen't however work for a MOODY company that seem dead set on fooking over customers at every avaliable oppurtunity with every route possible.

My missus took her ipod touch into the apple shop the other day to get help with something, after 2 hrs of waiting for an(using the word loosley) technician she was told the updates she needed were no longer avaliable and essentially the ipod was scrap, after the missus asked what she supposed to do with it now then? The guys smug response was "at least you can still play music on it".

APPLE are ****e end of and so far, so are most of the people ive encountered who work for them, in my opinion apple are the only MOODY company and everyone else who can help are knights in shining armour

JackClark

I've bought lots of things and taken them back to the seller for repairs, it's usually the best avenue to take.

What some people fail to understand - corner shops included - is that TouchID is very secure and it's a very good idea to keep it that way. Have a read of this https://www.apple.com/business/docs/...rity_Guide.pdf it might help.

JackClark

Rant much. I meant moody as in I walk in to ask a question and he's always in a mood. Bloody expensive too, both times I've ended up going to Apple for an official repair.

Tell your missus to book an appointment next time, it's what the rest of us do. You should take a look at Android phones if you want to see a lack of updates, shocking, how old was your iPod? I've seen Android phones less than a year old that can't get the latest updates and are essentially scrap like your iPod, at least they can still make calls on them though.

JackClark

Open my eyes, it's you that's commenting about things you know nothing about. "little repairs" I posted a document earlier that you might like to read, secure enclave is a good start. And you can fix the screen no problem, just don't replace the button.

dpb

lots phones have touch id do they not

JackClark

Yes, the iPhone 5s upwards. If you're suggesting that other brands of phones are using Apple's technology then no.

dpb

Yes Iv a feeling all iPhones updates are costing me data ..

My android was completely useable after 3 years btw

ScoobyDoo555

The screen "replacers" aren't the problem - the crafty shysters out there found an "in" using dodgy fingerprint home buttons.
Most screens can be replaced without changing the home-button.

Sensationalist reporting at best tbh.

andy97

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Just because a device doesn't have the latest updates, does no take it scrap. My phone is still on Kitkat, perfectly usable, and modified to my requirements. It is 2 updates behind. It works just aswell the day I bought it and doesn't stop working because it hasn't got the latest OS.

Apple's behaviour of bricking devices which have had a perfectly satisfactory repair by a non apple repair centre appalling behaviour. Just shows a contempt for consumers. I hope this bites them on the ****.

JackClark

Pitchforks at dawn.

You crack on modifying your phone, I'm sure you're better at fixing security issues than Google and Apple. How dare they stop their operating system from working on shady hardware in the name of security! What utter *******.

riiidaa

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so then disable touch id, not brick phone

JackClark

Read the document I linked, it's not that simple. What is simple is getting a real button.

markjmd

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Please elaborate, or distill for us the vital essence of the 60-page doc you posted which would explain why:
could not quite easily be replaced by
Once you've the done the above, we'll hopefully be in better a position to decide whether Apple are just being a bunch of miserable cvnts, or whether there's any truth to the claim that "Behaviour 1" was the sole option open to them entirely due to technical constraints

gazzawrx

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She waited 2 hrs for the appointment, that was the point of the wait, but after waiting 2hrs she was fobbed off in 30 seconds, imo thats taking the p1ss. The ipod is quite old now, she had it when they not long come out. Apple neglected to mention the thing would end up scrap after a few years when i was paying them iro £400 for it, again thats taking the p1ss.

As for android, i have a galaxy s6 edge and have had no trouble at all with updates, if anything it does my head in that i keep getting notifications to update the software/apps etc, so at the minute its good as is the missus' s4 mini thats just over 2 years old.

Oh and just so you know my kodi box is great

hodgy0_2

jack,

Sorry, I appreciate your sanity on a lot of topics/threads - even the trivial "Apple are cvnts" threads

But I read about this "error 53" issue - and you are wrong

The implications for consumers are awful

If "cashless security" means consumers have to accept this b0ll0cks, then frankly let's keep cash

gazzawrx

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So what happens if a moody guy fits a 'real' button but is not an apple tech?

neil-h

Nothing. If I understand it right, the error 53 issue is caused by none OE hardware. Fit an OE button and the phone doesn't care.

gazzawrx

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Fair enough, are rear buttons readily availiable though? Knowing apple probably not and if they are to come direct from apple, they will probably cost as much as a new phone anyway

andy97

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apple are going to get their fingers burnt over this policy. The phone belongs to the consumer and not apple. Rendering a phone useless and unable to retrieve their own personal data. Class action is coming their way

pimmo2000

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that's the next catch, only supplied and fitted by Apple.

JackClark

Thats not true, the button needs to be coded to the secure enclave, your bloke down the shop might one day be able to do that but right now he can't. He shouldn't have told you he could repair it, if he'd read up he'd know he can't, but he took your money and left you with a bricked phone, but Apple are the ******* here.

JackClark

Bad Apple, such ******* for being so secure. We should burn them at the stake.