Do you mean like for like - un-mod'd? wet and dry?

Hatch versus Saloon

FWD versus 4WD

Non turbo versus Turbo

£16K versus £21K

Just different I recon - although havent driven new CTR yet (just from what i've read)

Be good to hear what sensible folks think (excludes imatrikhas) since its considered best hot hatch by many, and WRX is best drivers car - that may even have answered the question for you.

 

Test drove a WRX then a CTR. Overall performance/ability seemed very similar, although scoob would obviously be quicker off the line and better in the wet with its superior traction. On a dry track it would come down purely to driver ability I think.

I went for the CTR in the end, the Scoob is a slightly better car overall I think, but it did not justify the extra £6K and higher running costs IMHO.

Spoons

 

I've now been the proud owner of a CTR for the last 5,000 miles (since November) after moving from a mildly modified MY98.

The Scooby has that turbo kick, but unfortunately also an amount of lag changing up.
The CTR comes in higher with a kick but you have to concentrate a bit to keep it there.

The CTR is better built and gets more attention than my Scooby did.

Performance wise, I really don't think theres that much in it. Now that mines run in nicely and been on Optimax for a bit I think it'll give a standard Scooby a run for it's money. Obviously a modded Scooby is different but then so's a modded CTR!

The Scooby is cheaper and easier to modify than the CTR. But it's also more expensive to run and insure.

Bottom line, they're both great cars and although I do miss my Impreza I don't regret having the CTR as a replacement one bit. If you ever catch me at a track-day please ask for a ride - I'll be only too pleased.

Laurence

 

I swopped my MY99 for a Civic last Friday. The Civic seems to be easier to keep on the boil than the Subaru (I have gone right off turbocharged cars due to the throttle response and lag). It's hard to tell whether the straight line performance is the same, but so far I haven't felt any torque steer whatsoever (unlike in the Subaru, amazingly) and I've been taking corners faster than I did in the Subaru (and I'm talking in normal-ish driving, not ***** out) because there's more feel and more confidence from the front end.

I tried a MY01 WRX but it was the worst of both worlds. So I'm very happy with my Civic.

 

BASH: I get loads more attention from the CTR than the Scooby. Every time I leave it in a car-park you can guarantee people will walk round it and look through the windows.

That's why I got my NAVtrak refitted a couple of weeks back!

Don't mind the attention though - otherwise I'd be driving a Focus LX or an Astra LS (tongue-in-cheek).

SJobson: There may be no torque steer at the moment. Wait until it's broken in though. Around 1,000 miles something seems to go 'click' and the rocket burners cut in. Mine's now done nearly 5k and it gets quicker every day - mind you so does the smile

Laurence

 

i all,

Friend has just got his black CTR on Friday and it seems superb! Have driven it for 20 mins or so and was v impressed especially as still not run in. He wants to put a decent exhaust on, any ideas guys!?

Mossman

 

I've actually been stopped twice by car-mad people who just wanted to talk about the car. Usually opening with 'Isn't this that new Type-R Honda?'. Good boost for the ego - now if I could just get the same effect but without the car

Why not pop over to: http://www.ex-s.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi for info on mods. As far as I can see at the moment there isn't an affordable exhaust. Mugen do one but it's about £10 short of £1k!

There will be loads of stuff soon though.

Laurence