Got my DAS in 3 weeks time - been driving cars for 21years, bikes (125) since September.

I've seen an R6 and a Triumph Daytona in a local shop at my price range, but don't know if either are worth putting a deposit on before my test, or should I wait until I've passed and buy later ?

My concern is whether the 'right bike' will be around after I've passed..... (Plus impatient etc etc) :D

Anyone any advice on these two types of bikes ?

Mark

YAMAHA YZF-R6 600cc , 2002 02 Reg , 8,850 miles, RED. Excellent Condition, HPI Clear, service history, Tank Pad, Very Low Miles, Alarm, Immobiliser. Promach Rearsets, Steering Damper, Leo Vinci Silencer. All usual dealer facilities. £3,649 p/x welcome Auto Trader Dealer Pages - B S Bikes (http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/WWW/dpage_photoad.jsp?abname=bsbikes&pageid=2&id=200746298922010)

TRIUMPH DAYTONA 600 600cc , 2004 54 Reg , 11,730 miles, Red. As New, HPI Clear, Tank Pad. Union Flag top fairing, Remus silencer & standard, aero screen, carbon fairing infills, gel seat, Colour Matched Single Seat Cover. Just had major 12,000 mile service. All usual dealer facilities. £3,895 p/x welcome
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all i can say is , this is the time 2 buy m8 :thumb: . roll up with £3500 in ya pocket and take the r6 , you never no this time of year you might nick it for £3400 even :) . wait till the summer and the prices go up and the bartering goes down .

I agree, now is the right time to buy, but DONT be inpatient.

You might worry that there wont be another "good deal",, but trust me, there will be !!!!

privately you will get a better bargain, probably best to wait till youve passed your test, no harm in looking in the mean time, and if there is something you like- put a low offer in, dont worry about being cheeky as its your hard erned, if you get a newer lower mileage bike for the same money it would be worth it,
taffy

Cheers Gents -

Mark

just to add I bought a 2007 cbr600rr the other week for a smidgen over 5k,
this bike was 7700 just a few months ago, and next years bike is the same as this years, it is a very modern bike and its only just over 1k more than your looking at spending
taffy

jan/feb is always a great time to buy, i suspect those bikes will still be available in a few weeks.....or explain yourself to the dealer and drop £50 his way as a deposit, but no more than £50 imho.

Pud

I'm in a similar situation mate, do I buy now or wait.

I passed my test about a month ago & I'm itching to get a blue R6. What makes it worse is that my mate let me have a go on his red R6 & my other mate picked up a 2005 Kawasaki 636 on Saturday, aaaarrrrggg!!!! I want a peice of the action!!

damn you boyz are buying fast bikes for first bikes.......nice work, ehehehhe

I wouldn't buy either.

Buy yourself a cheap big bike and get some serious miles down and then look to get one of the above. Thats the advice I have been given over and over again by experienced bikers and I am glad thats what I am doing. The 600 I currently ride is considered slow but from where I'm coming from (post CG125) its a flying machine......

May be its a boring approach but I know how Id feel if I'd spent 3 grand on an R6, only to drop it after a couple of weeks due to inexperience.

:thumb:

It's interesting the different views and advice you get about first bikes, you always see the 'buy a 500/600 get some practice before moving on...'

I'm looking at doing my DAS in Jan and and i've been looking at the 07 R6, but then came across the great buy of the Kawasaki ZX6R, which i've now brought ready for when i pass (very understanding missus to have with it sitting in the dinning room till that time).

But speaking to a bloke the other day before i brought, he recommended if it's a 600 sports bike your after then get one, your only ever going to be throwing money away if you buy one of these 'practice' bikes for 6 months as you'll grow board quickly, and if you haven't got much money in the beginning then it's even worse advice.

As always it goes down to the classic line of you'll only go as fast as that right wrist.

A clueless learner:D

you could say buying a "learner" 600 as a first bike is a waste of money, but then again, how gutted would you feel if you buy your "dream" r6/zx636r etc etc and put it down the road, or drop it through some silly mistake within the first few months, and trust me YOU WILL !!!!!

I went from DAS, to fazer 600, after a year, went up to a thundercat. both of which were far far superior to me and fairly heavy 600's.... THEN a year later got a good deal on a 636, which is so light I feel so much mroe comfortable on it, but so glad I didnt get it first as I did drop the Fazer and cat a few times, mostly silly, low speed (walking speed etc etc) things, like turning them around, U turns, stopping on gravel for the first time etc etc........

Now I have the 636, its awesome, Im in lovce, its a dream bike, its FAR FAR better than me, but again, Im getting itchy pants and thinking of moving on, not because I need a better bike, just because I want a newer one !!! lol

What Im saying is, 1) DONT rush inand buy an r6 for the first bike - you will drop it
2) You wont lose a lot of money on something like a Fazer or thundercat as a first big bike 3) dont get a 500 - they would be a waste of space 4) there are ALWAYS good deals to be had, trust me. oh 4) my ninja might be for sale come spring when the new GSX is out!! lol

It's interesting the different views and advice you get about first bikes, you always see the 'buy a 500/600 get some practice before moving on...'

I'm looking at doing my DAS in Jan and and i've been looking at the 07 R6, but then came across the great buy of the Kawasaki ZX6R, which i've now brought ready for when i pass (very understanding missus to have with it sitting in the dinning room till that time).

But speaking to a bloke the other day before i brought, he recommended if it's a 600 sports bike your after then get one, your only ever going to be throwing money away if you buy one of these 'practice' bikes for 6 months as you'll grow board quickly, and if you haven't got much money in the beginning then it's even worse advice.

As always it goes down to the classic line of you'll only go as fast as that right wrist.

A clueless learner:D

yeah thats crap, ya buy a 3k 600, ride it for a year or so trade it in against something you lust after fro 2.5k, you'll save on depreciation and insurance.

you'll be turning that wrist a lot on the new 600's totally unusable for a newbie and even a lot of more experienced riders, you get to be the guy everyone pulls over and waits for "all the gear and no idea" comes to mind.

then you trade up in a year or 2 for a thou and go dead fast....in a straight line.

Pud

I'm on a CBF600 and I really don't find that I am yawning. May be I'm a slow learner but this bike out accelerates alot of capable cars and with my current riding skill is more than capable of keeping up with me. I don't want to have a bike that looks fast, I want to be able to ride a bike fast :p

yep a bike will only go as fast as your right hand will twist......this is true but just remember in the process of learning, you may make some mistakes.....make sure whatever you decide, you don't end up eating tarmac with your dream bike in bits.

That would be painful in more ways than one :thumb:

just to add my two pences worth.... I know a guy(mids 30s) who used to do the electrics in my work place,
he had just pass his bike test, after a few weeks when out on a sunday ride(on a cbr600) with his father (750) approaching a dual carriage way speed pass his dad at 100+mph, went around a bend(at this point his dad lost sight off him), when his dad went around the bend , he saw his son's bike in pieces further up the road and his son again even further away :(
this was 2 years ago ....the guy is STILL in a wheel chair paralize wast down !
moral of this story is ride something that is near yr capability and progress to bigger bikes a step at a time !
as today's 600 is even faster than many 1000 afew years ago !
trust me I know ...as I have crash every bike that I've had (thats from a honda xl125 unrestricted in the good old days to fireblades, R1 and most recently crashed my Gsxr 750 with a broken collar bone :(,
and I am no newbie(riding for 27 years )
the performance bikes now need reaction times of the like of Rossi, stoner :)etc etc so learn to walk before you can run :)
and never be sorry :) imho!

For some though learning on a lesser bike to start with might give a false sense of confidence. Meaning that they think they are ready to chuck a bigger more powerfull bike around only to have the bigger bike bite them in the ass because they wasn't as good a rider as they thought they were.

I have four friends who all have bikes. One has a 2002 R6, his first bike & had it throughout the summer last year, he's not come off it or dropped it yet but he is an absolute nutter so it's only a matter of time. Another had a 2001 CBR600, again, first bike, had it 2 years, never dropped it but had a car pull out on him which wrote the bike off, was not his fault. Another has just picked up a 636 for a first bike. Another had a 600 bandit for 2 years & has now got a GSX600 that he's had for about 6 months. Again, he's not dropped his bikes or had an accident.

If you learn on a powerfull sports bike to start with than surely you will give the bike more respect in the way you ride, knowing how powerfull it is. I know I would.

just to add the LAW require a new rider to ride a bike restricted to 12bhp for a reason!.....so they do not go out and kill them self before they are used to the bike .
i remembered the days when you just need a full car licence to walk into any bike shop and buy a 250cc bike and ride its away on "L" plates !
(which I did and duely crash it on the way back home ! )