Am I the only one who finds this a little strange..

McLaren face scrutiny over Alonso (http://bbs.scoobynet.com/McLaren%20face%20scrutiny%20over%20Alonso)

Formula One's governing body has stepped in to ensure McLaren give equal treatment to Fernando Alonso and Lewis Hamilton at the Brazilian Grand Prix.

The FIA is appointing a special scrutineer for the race at Interlagos to ensure there is no favouritism.

Since when has the issue of how a team treat individual drivers been a concern to FIA? I don't recall FIA getting involved with any other team to ensure they treat both drivers the same. Ron Dennis has said all along that he intends to treat both drives the same. In fact, it was Alonso who was upset that he was NOT getting preferential treatment himself..

It's just getting silly, and just goes further to prove the FIAhas lost the plot. It's none of their business as to how teams run their cars (assuming they are legal).

A farcical end to the end of what should have been a great season :(

So Mclaren must treat their drivers equally but Ferrari can use Massa to help Raikennen to win the champoinship??

That's correct :(

So Mclaren must treat their drivers equally but Ferrari can use Massa to help Raikennen to win the champoinship??

Massa has even publicly said that he knows he may have to help Kimi to win the drivers title

Only if the Mclaren drivers are 7th and below will he be pretty much allowed to win his home GP, as this will ensure Kimi will still win the championship if 2nd

Its an utter disgrace and farce that Mclaren are being scrutinised and ferrari allowed to do what they like for the final race

Funny how Ferrari never had FIA approved people in their garages to ensure equality for every race, especially after that Schumacher Barichello incident a few years back

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I think you are all missing the point here. For once this has nothing to do with Ferrari.

This farcical situation has arisen because it is widely known that McLaren would prefer to have Hamilton win the championship than Alonso and hence some sporting body in Spain has moaned to the FIA about poor Alonso and for some inexpicable reason the FIA have listened.

If I was Ron Dennis I would say enough is enough and tell them that if this scrutineer sets one foot inside their garage he will be forcibly removed. The FIA already have scrutineers at every race, why do they need an extra one just for McLaren.

At the end of the day it is up to McLaren how they choose to run their team and why should they be fair to Alonso after the way he has behaved towards them.

I think you are all missing the point here. For once this has nothing to do with Ferrari.

This farcical situation has arisen because it is widely known that McLaren would prefer to have Hamilton win the championship than Alonso and hence some sporting body in Spain has moaned to the FIA about poor Alonso and for some inexpicable reason the FIA have listened.

If I was Ron Dennis I would say enough is enough and tell them that if this scrutineer sets one foot inside their garage he will be forcibly removed. The FIA already have scrutineers at every race, why do they need an extra one just for McLaren.

At the end of the day it is up to McLaren how they choose to run their team and why should they be fair to Alonso after the way he has behaved towards them.

So what if they prefer Hamilton to win

Ferrarimacher for years and years only wanted (and very very publicly) Schumacher to win at all costs including cheating, bending the rules, using illegal components, and gifting wins and losses to one another, and running other drivers off the track

What Mclaren have or are doing is much much more subtle, and this time Ferrari cannot go publicly saying that massa will do all he can to help Kimi, when the FerrarIA have someone in Mclarens pit making sure they dont so much as breathe out of line

Pathetic it truly is

And this is coming from a long standing Ferrari Fan, and Mclaren hater too

So what if they prefer Hamilton to win

Ferrarimacher for years and years only wanted (and very very publicly) Schumacher to win at all costs including cheating, bending the rules, using illegal components, and gifting wins and losses to one another, and running other drivers off the track

What Mclaren have or are doing is much much more subtle, and this time Ferrari cannot go publicly saying that massa will do all he can to help Kimi, when the FerrarIA have someone in Mclarens pit making sure they dont so much as breathe out of line

Pathetic it truly is

And this is coming from a long standing Ferrari Fan, and Mclaren hater too

Huh? Which bit of "At the end of the day it is up to McLaren how they choose to run their team and why should they be fair to Alonso after the way he has behaved towards them." did you misunderstand? You seem to be picking an argument by agreeing with me :cuckoo:

And why can't you read the facts. Ferrari have not asked for this scrutineer. The Spanish Sports Council have i.e. Alonso's camp. For once nothing to do with Ferrari.

Oh and as for the comments about Schumacher's years at Ferrari... in the main pathetic. It's called motor racing, not a Sunday afternoon trip to the supermarket.

Not picking an argument with you, I was making a statement on how I see things

The comments about Schumacher are not pathetic its the truth, Ferrari brought Schumacher in to win, in latter years they were really only interested in him winning at whatever cost to the team and the sport (and again I was a ferrari and believe it or not a Schumacher fan)

The reason I mentioned that was because it was almost always ok for Ferrari to favour one driver, but now it isnt ok for McLaren to favour a driver, so much so a scrutineer has been brought in

If it is called Motor racing, how do explain the gifted win to Barichello a few years ago, that may as well been a trip to the supermarket

The comments about Schumacher are not pathetic its the truth, Ferrari brought Schumacher in to win, in latter years they were really only interested in him winning at whatever cost to the team and the sport (and again I was a ferrari and believe it or not a Schumacher fan)

The reason I mentioned that was because it was almost always ok for Ferrari to favour one driver, but now it isnt ok for McLaren to favour a driver, so much so a scrutineer has been brought in

If it is called Motor racing, how do explain the gifted win to Barichello a few years ago, that may as well been a trip to the supermarket

Ferrari ran a 1/2 driver strategy. So what? Not sure about the winning at whatever cost to the team and the sport comments. Schumacher was ruthless like Senna and others before him. The difference is he drove in an era when banging wheels etc. wasn't the norm any longer like it had been in Senna's day hence a lot opf people gave him a hard time for it. he also knew the rules better than most and was prepared to push them to the limit. Oh and if you think Hamilton is any different you have another thing coming, the most Schumacher like driver I have seen so far.

Totally agree about the scrutineer, but my point is that if the FIA hadn't listened to the whining Spanish Sports Council then there would be no scrutineer. This is very much about Ron Dennis and Max Mosely and this particular play has nothing to do with Ferrari. The fact they have no scrutineer is just circumstance not design.

Finally, gifting wins to drivers has always happened to a certain extent. e.g. Mansell pulling over and letting Patrese pass him at Monza in 1992. It's a team sport, you might not like it, the FIA might not like it, but that is what it is.

it's silly really Alonso is basically just a little 8yr old stuck in a 20 somethings body and has been using playground rules all season because he has been out raced and skilled! And now someone has moaned to their Spanish friend (high up) and they've then moaned to the FIA it's pathetic really but sport is full of these tool's who don't know how to except their not the best anymore :cuckoo:

As said, what a sad end to the potential of a revival 2007 season good for the sport and the global industry.

Why can't they just RACE against each other?

FIA? Just how wide is their remit? Unlimited it seems if your car is silver.

One thing that will be interesting is that Hamilton has a new engine for this race where as Alonso has one on its seocnd race as be binned it in Japan and hence had a new engine last time out.

Wonder how the Spanish Sports Council/FIA equality nazi will manage to get that fixed so that their boy has a new engine too.

What utter bollox this FIA scrutineer is. Didn't Schumacher steal Barichello's car once, and make Barrichello drive the T-car? That's Ferrari equality for you.

Richard.

What utter bollox this FIA scrutineer is. Didn't Schumacher steal Barichello's car once, and make Barrichello drive the T-car? That's Ferrari equality for you.

Richard.

Nothing to do with equality, Ferrari ran their team with 1/2 driver strategy and that is entirely up to them. The issue here is that McLaren are not allowed to run their team as they see fit and that is frankly wrong and pathetic. Especialy when out of all the teams, with the exception of Williams, they are the team most likely to run their team equally anyway. :cuckoo:

Just leave them to get on with it.

I can not see mclaren getting involved in the garage with this.

On the track i can see them doing a senna/prost job.

Kimi to be champion:notworthy

On the track i can see them doing a senna/prost job.



Why? If either Alonso or Hamilton take the other out, it leaves the door open to Kimi. I doubt either of them want that...

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Love it

Ferrari are the only people who stand to gain from this. Even alonso says he is not happy about it, it can only hamper the whole mclaren team:nono:

Love it

Ferrari are the only people who stand to gain from this. Even alonso says he is not happy about it, it can only hamper the whole mclaren team:nono:

So the president of the Spanish Motorsport Federation (who instigated this little farce) is in actual fact a Ferrari fan :cuckoo: