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davyboy 07 October 2007, 09:31 ...shame about Hamilton, although if you'd have said he would be leading the WDC by 4 points going in to the last race, I'm pretty sure he'd have taken it.
Anyway, on to a British World Champion, James Toseland should do it today :thumb:
Leslie 08 October 2007, 13:48 I think he will finish the job in Brazil
Les :)
Funkii Munkii 08 October 2007, 13:58 A real shame, and it had nothing to do with the each way bet I made at the start of the season at 16/1 ;)
Best last race to a season that I can remember, to have 3 drivers going for it is what you want :thumb:
mark6 21 October 2007, 22:38 looks like he may be world champ after all,bmw and someone else may be disqualified and hamilton goes up to 4th place..
JGRIFF 21 October 2007, 22:55 BMW Sauber and Williams are under investigation of the Brazilian Grand Prix race stewards, autosport.com has learned.
Representatives of both teams were summoned to the stewards' office after their cars failed post-race inspection at Brazil.
The problem is believed to be in the tempature of the fuel samples taken from the cars of Williams's Nico Rosberg and BMW Sauber's Robert Kubica and Nick Heidfeld.
The trio finished the race in fourth, fifth and sixth respectively.
jaytc2003 22 October 2007, 08:37 hmmmm Mclaren are supposedly going to appeal the stewards decisions.
Dont think that will be successful,
FIA headed by Max Mosley, Mclaren headed by Ron Dennis, throw in the old Max loves Ferrari and the answer is 2nd place for Lewis still.
Out of interest if fuel is a lower temperature does that give it more octane?
Gutted Lewis didnt win, but glad that the Ice Man got it. (hate Alonso after his antics this year although he is a good driver/racer)
pippyrips 22 October 2007, 09:01 hmmmm Mclaren are supposedly going to appeal the stewards decisions.
Dont think that will be successful,
FIA headed by Max Mosley, Mclaren headed by Ron Dennis, throw in the old Max loves Ferrari and the answer is 2nd place for Lewis still.
Out of interest if fuel is a lower temperature does that give it more octane?
Gutted Lewis didnt win, but glad that the Ice Man got it. (hate Alonso after his antics this year although he is a good driver/racer)
Don't quote me on this but the colder the temp the more dense the fuel so although it won't raise octane levels it does have other benefits.
Hoppy 22 October 2007, 11:27 Don't quote me on this but the colder the temp the more dense the fuel so although it won't raise octane levels it does have other benefits.
Never noticed how quick your Scoob feels when it's cold? It's the temperature of the air that matters, which is why you have an intercooler and big scoop.
Cold air is more dense, holds more oxygen, gives more power. Chilled fuel obviously helps this. Can make a big difference, which is why all the big power Scoobs have front-mounted inter-coolers, away from the heat of the engine, for maximum benefit.
That's why it's in the F1 rule book, which obviously needs updating with another rule to explain the rule.
The whole situation is ridiculous. Latest I've heard is that fuel must not be more than 10 degs below ambient, but nobody can confirm what the ambient temp was in Brazil :rolleyes:
There is no question that BMW and Williams will have had a performance benefit from super-chilled fuel. How much? Who knows. Will the FIA do anything about it other than go through the motions? No.
F1 is a joke. Utter farce this year. The FIA are clowns. They will just make the rule book thicker when it really needs chucking away.
Richard.
JGRIFF 22 October 2007, 12:43 McLaren have notified world governing body, the FIA, of their intention to appeal the stewards' verdict following the Brazilian Grand Prix.
If McLaren choose to pursue their appeal, it would temper new world champion Kimi Raikkonen's title celebrations following his remarkable triumph at Interlagos.
McLaren believe the stewards missed vital evidence, and that could cast fresh doubt on an already controversial and dramatic championship.
The stewards launched an investigation as BMW Sauber and Williams were found to be in breach of technical regulations regarding fuel temperatures.
However, after a three-hour hearing, the stewards chose to impose no penalty on either team.
If they had done so then Nico Rosberg, Robert Kubica and Nick Heidfeld, who finished fourth, fifth and sixth respectively, could easily have been stripped of their points. That would have promoted Lewis Hamilton up to fourth, and given the 22-year-old the crown in his rookie year.
Hamilton could only finish seventh as he suffered a gearbox issue on lap eight which relegated him from sixth to 18th at that time. It resulted in the young British star finishing agonisingly just a point shy of Raikkonen, who at one stage trailed Hamilton by 26 points after the United States Grand Prix in June.
However, McLaren feel there are Sporting Working Group minutes that negate the two points made by the stewards as to why they did not impose a penalty.
Should they appeal, and they can prove their argument, there may yet be one final twist in an extraordinary season.
McLaren insist their argument is nothing to do with Ferrari as many critics might perhaps believe given the enmity that exists between the two teams. Rather it is a case of seeing the regulations upheld, just as they have been done on occasions against them this season.
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