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DaveL001 14 March 2007, 00:53 i have always thought about owning a motorbike, and now im seriosly considering it.
im 24, with a full car license
wat tests do i need to do so i can ride a bike??
i would be lookin for something like an R6 which i have always loved
rgds
dave
GROWLER_GRRRR 14 March 2007, 02:21 as long as you get some good training you should be ok
dont just think its a case of cbt few lessons then test and boom
you must learn the basics , sorry if this isent you alot of people have no clue :Suspiciou about the dangers involved .
apart from that GET YOUR ARSE IN GEAR AND GO DO IT !:thumb:
slim_boy_fat 14 March 2007, 10:03 Find your nearest training organisation. They will have all in deals for your CBT theory and Test + all the lessons you will need.
It been over 10 years since i did mine and things have changed so not sure about cost but i would think about £300-£400 to get you full licence.
If i was you i would have a phone about for insurance quotes too, you might get a shock
Dont discount a less racy bike for your first year, CB500 or SV650 et al.
They are very fast on the road, ok they dont look the best but its a great way to learn your craft and build up some NCB.
Im on a zx10r now but started on an RG250. The RG was just brill, i have very fond memories of that bike, as i am sure most guys will of their first rides!!
Pudders69 14 March 2007, 11:24 theory test...maybe, not sure
CBT £70-£100...should be a cracking day
DAS £500-£800 Dependant on how much work you need and where you live
R6 ain't the ideal starter bike but when you know no different then i am not so sure what difference it makes (i started on a zx6r), although i would say a Honda Hornet is ideal, fast fun, plenty of Cred and as fast as owt unless your chasing a dedicated loony...which ain't a good idea.
But do it, its sooo addictive
DaveL001 14 March 2007, 12:22 cheers for the advice guys, its just somethin about the r6 that i love, havent really looked at any other bikes.
will start trying to find some prices for the test/course
GROWLER_GRRRR 14 March 2007, 19:32 DID someone say best commuter bike ! :luxhello: :D
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u110/GOWISE/CB500W.jpg
gordon_r1 14 March 2007, 19:42 growlerrrrr, you got 1 of them? sure i seen ya on a big gsxr1000??
GROWLER_GRRRR 14 March 2007, 20:39 aye aye big boy , small world init .:luxhello: :thumb:
GROWLER_GRRRR 14 March 2007, 22:57 DID someone say best commuter bike ! :luxhello: :D
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u110/GOWISE/CB500W.jpg
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DaveL001 15 March 2007, 00:24 back on track pls guys!!!!
anyone got a rough idea as to what costs im looking at
CBT and direct access course, in west london area
and insurance on a bike(rough)
slim_boy_fat 15 March 2007, 21:18 theory test...maybe, not sure
CBT £70-£100...should be a cracking day
DAS £500-£800 Dependant on how much work you need and where you live
R6 ain't the ideal starter bike but when you know no different then i am not so sure what difference it makes (i started on a zx6r), although i would say a Honda Hornet is ideal, fast fun, plenty of Cred and as fast as owt unless your chasing a dedicated loony...which ain't a good idea.
But do it, its sooo addictive
Wow im obviously a bit out of touch, still am a bit surpised its as much as £800 to get full licence.
slim_boy_fat 15 March 2007, 21:23 back on track pls guys!!!!
anyone got a rough idea as to what costs im looking at
CBT and direct access course, in west london area
and insurance on a bike(rough)
Kawasaki are doing 0% on the ER6F which is a nice starter bike. Get yourself a nice deal.
I would be surprised if your insirance was less that £500 (even for a cheap small capacity bike)
The R6 would be closer to £1500-£2k i would guess.
Lost? 16 March 2007, 00:01 I did my test with Elite over in Wembley. Cant remeber how much it cost though, about 3 years ago now.
Not sure they are still there though, but if they are, great guys to learn with, and get you through quick and easy!
I did DAS and got my first bike last year. Cost was around £600 (I forget the actual figure) for CBT (1 day), 4 days training, and test. I did this in Chelmsford.
My insurance is about £700 for a 2005 CBR600RR, garaged, fully comp and I'm 30. It feels gutting that you start all over again for NCB, but there's not much you can do about it.
Best thing to do is find a training centre round your way, have a chat and find out what they offer and for how much. Then go for it.
I found the whole experience fantastic. It's always nice to learn something new, and sunny days out on the bike are just the best!
screwdriver 16 March 2007, 13:30 The R6 is a fabulous machine, right up there with the best bikes currently available. It would be a brilliant machine, even for a newbie. But of course you wouldn't know it - if you have no other motorcycle experience.
Ideally you should do a bit of offroad (personally I think all bikers should) and again ideally, you should have a trolley to learn how to crash/fall over/drop.
If you start off on the best bike in the world in its class, where do you go from there? But more importantly how do you learn and how do you develop your road skills? Even an expert rider would struggle to get anywhere near the limit of an R6s performance on the road. So as a newbie how do you learn about skid control, brake control, tankslappers, jumps etc. All of these things can simply happen out of the blue and you really need to know how to react without having to think about it first.
Sadly, newbie riders on super sports machines are much much more likely to underestimate the performance of their machine and bottle out mid-bend. This is in fact one of the most common newbie single vehicle accidents. Oh well live and learn.
Or should that be learn and live...
Screwd.
Sgt_Pepper 18 March 2007, 20:33 I'm also looking into CBT DAS etc. and bikes, insurance prices etc. But keep getting put off by people saying that everyone comes off their bike at some point.
Is it impossible not to come off your bike? I guess their are a few folk out their who've never come off, I just don't wanna shell out for a sweet bike and end up with the fairing scraped to feck.
I'm guessing its the same idea as cars in that you probably will have a crash at some point in your driving career, but how serious it is, is the important bit.
How many folk on here have never came off and over what period of riding?
Good wee section this:)
Lost? 18 March 2007, 21:40 Is it impossible not to come off your bike?
Just as much chance of crashing your car i suppose??
Ive been on the road 3 years on a gsxr 600, never had an off, bike is still mint ;)
Most the time i ride pretty sensible, but sometimes i ride like a bit of a loon/pratt. Obviously only where conditions allow.
Go for it, youll love it, no car can supply the same adrenaline as a blast on a bike!
screwdriver 19 March 2007, 00:32 ...keep getting put off by people saying that everyone comes off their bike at some point.
It's as easy as falling off a bicycle. That can be quite nasty but is often merely an inconvenience. Falling off a motorcycle clearly has the capacity to be extraordinarily inconvenient, especially if you were just beginning to enjoy life...
Will you inevitably fall off? Hmm. Well, yes. Sorry. But it doesn't have to be life threatening, in fact, that is one of the reasons I recommend off road riding; on the grounds that it will most certainly involve off road crashing. You need to know what it's like and how easy it is to do so that you can learn how to avoid it or at least minimise the possibility (that and the machine control aspect).
Big fast bikes are no more dangerous than sensible plodding commuters; except that on a big fast bike you are much more likely to have a big fast accident. In your life, you don't get the chance to have too many of those. Have yourself a few small slow ones to find out of you like it first.
But hey, half the fun is in the danger. All I am saying is that riding a motorcycle is a skill which takes a moment to learn and a lifetime to master. It worries me sometimes when people dive straight in with the biggest fastest machine available. There's nothing wrong with that per se, but you'd be missing out on the learning experience.
Take your time, learn how to ride a bike on something sensible, be receptive to the idea you will drop it or fall off at some stage, make sure you minimise the personal damage that might cause (who gives a flick about a bit of plastic?) and approach motorcycling sensibly with self development right up there alongside self preservation.
I really don't care if a newbie rider jumps onto an R1 or an R6 straight after their test. Why should that concern me? No, what concerns me is that that path is much longer, much more difficult for the new rider to learn the ropes. Motorcycling then becomes a deadly game of chance rather than the most exhilarating of life skills.
Riding a bike is not something you do, it is a part of who you are.
Screwd.
Sbradley 19 March 2007, 11:41 It's as easy as falling off a bicycle. That can be quite nasty but is often merely an inconvenience. Falling off a motorcycle clearly has the capacity to be extraordinarily inconvenient, especially if you were just beginning to enjoy life...
Will you inevitably fall off? Hmm. Well, yes. Sorry. But it doesn't have to be life threatening, in fact, that is one of the reasons I recommend off road riding; on the grounds that it will most certainly involve off road crashing. You need to know what it's like and how easy it is to do so that you can learn how to avoid it or at least minimise the possibility (that and the machine control aspect).
Big fast bikes are no more dangerous than sensible plodding commuters; except that on a big fast bike you are much more likely to have a big fast accident. In your life, you don't get the chance to have too many of those. Have yourself a few small slow ones to find out if you like it first.
But hey, half the fun is in the danger. All I am saying is that riding a motorcycle is a skill which takes a moment to learn and a lifetime to master. It worries me sometimes when people dive straight in with the biggest fastest machine available. There's nothing wrong with that per se, but you'd be missing out on the learning experience.
Take your time, learn how to ride a bike on something sensible, be receptive to the idea you will drop it or fall off at some stage, make sure you minimise the personal damage that might cause (who gives a flick about a bit of plastic?) and approach motorcycling sensibly with self development right up there alongside self preservation.
I really don't care if a newbie rider jumps onto an R1 or an R6 straight after their test. Why should that concern me? No, what concerns me is that that path is much longer, much more difficult for the new rider to learn the ropes. Motorcycling then becomes a deadly game of chance rather than the most exhilarating of life skills.
Riding a bike is not something you do, it is a part of who you are.
Screwd.
Quoted in full because it's one of the best, most profound statements about biking I've read for a long time :notworthy And my favourite bits are emboldened...
SB
Sonic_Danny 19 March 2007, 13:38 Done my direct access last year, cost me £400 plus fee for my theory test.
Vision Motorcycle Training St Albans (http://www.visionmotorcycletraining.co.uk/)
Bought a K4 gixer 600 last June and insurance was £380 third party fire and theft.
Im now 26 and live in Herts
craig79 19 March 2007, 16:46 Did trial biking in my youth and then went through the
DT50 for the road phase - great days !!
The thing broke down more often than I can remember.
Then got into cars and only got back into bikes a couple of years
ago. Was 26, did DAS, all in about 300ish, bought a 600 gixer
loved it, sold it, got a newer 600 gixer - lovin' it even more :thumb:
Just do it, trust me you'll be well glad you did:)
Sgt_Pepper 19 March 2007, 20:39 Yeah I was pretty much thinking along these lines too. The temptation to go out and buy a 2004 gixxer 600 is so high though.
A lot of friends have also been recommending a non race bike for my first as going straight into shifting in a lean forward position can be strange.
Really looking forward to getting started though :cool:
Simon C 21 March 2007, 23:44 Dave, I'm in the same boat as you. I have passed my theory which cost about 22 quid.
My local school have quoted £500 for a weeks tuition on DAS which included the CBT and test.
I'm saving up for the gear as we speak and the weeks course. (cant take time off from work untill June).
this will be my first road bike and I'm going for a tourer either a Suzuki Vstrom or BMW GS as my back won't take a sports riding position.
For a brand new 650 Vstrom I got quoted £384 fully comp as a 30 yo with 0 NCB and first bike.
Food for thought.
slim_boy_fat 22 March 2007, 00:04 Dave, I'm in the same boat as you. I have passed my theory which cost about 22 quid.
My local school have quoted £500 for a weeks tuition on DAS which included the CBT and test.
I'm saving up for the gear as we speak and the weeks course. (cant take time off from work untill June).
this will be my first road bike and I'm going for a tourer either a Suzuki Vstrom or BMW GS as my back won't take a sports riding position.
For a brand new 650 Vstrom I got quoted £384 fully comp as a 30 yo with 0 NCB and first bike.
Food for thought.
New Tiger looks nice!!
WRXMATT 22 March 2007, 09:47 I did my DAS in Farborough, cost under £600 for the week including theory, cbt and test which they sorted out.
Got myself a 2001 CBR600 straight away, as a 28year old, cost £350 fully comp to insure.
Get on and do it, you'll wonder why you didn't sooner ;-)
andy97 22 March 2007, 10:35 After some 18yr + lay off. I had a couple of test rides, borrowed a Kawasaki er6 for a coupe of weeks, then took delivery of my FJR1300. It has got loads of power, handles aswell. I had forgotten what good fun riding a bike could be.
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