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P1Fanatic
23 December 2006, 11:02
Windows sills and skirting boards are looking a little shabby so thought Id regloss them.

Got Dulux quick drying gloss for wood. Using a pretty small brush to get into the niggly corners but the finish looks horrible. No matter how hard I try I can still see the brush strokes.

Is it just crap paint or do I need a certain type of brush to get a nice even finish?

Simon

cuprajake
23 December 2006, 11:35
my dad always used to get them like glass, but its down to the prep,

he used to give them to coats of primer/undercoat, then when dry flat them smooth with 320 grit, next he would wipe them clean and dry and leave them over night so all dust settles, then in the morning he would sneak in with a 2 or 3 inch brush and paint them, just put it on normally but then you lightly run the brush the length of the sill lifting the surface to a gloss


hope this helps


jake

powerman1
23 December 2006, 12:08
preperation is the first step,a good brush is second,use plenty of paint when your painting sills and the paint will run flat but make sure to use straight Long brush strokes.
I wouldnt use quick dry paints either usually bit inferior quality

scoobytyson
23 December 2006, 13:41
Get yourself the normal liquid gloss,you can never get rid of your lines using quick dry gloss.If it says wash brushes out with water dont buy it as it will be water based gloss. Rob painter+decorator

powerman1
23 December 2006, 16:30
Get yourself the normal liquid gloss,you can never get rid of your lines using quick dry gloss.If it says wash brushes out with water dont buy it as it will be water based gloss. Rob painter+decorator
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P1Fanatic
23 December 2006, 16:47
Cheers for the advice guys. Remeber I did use oil based gloss a few years back and whilst it took ages to dry the finish was far better and easier to obtain.

Simon

j4ckos mate
23 December 2006, 18:52
i buy the non drip gel


give it a good wipe down with a wet cloth and start when its dry, when its fully painted
i try and do ther arc of a plane landing and then going down the run way and taking off if you see what i mean,


all mine has been fine with this method

yogi-
28 December 2006, 12:47
What you need to do is carefuly sand down in between coats, get the surface as smooth and clean as possible, and then any large surfaces use a sponge roller, it comes out as if you have sprayed it on.

P1Fanatic
28 December 2006, 12:50
I bought some non drip gloss and binned the quick dry stuff. Works fine so thanks for the comments. I couldnt be bothered sanding down so a few chips and dinks here and there but looks 100% better than it did. The previous white had turned a yucky cream colour.

BTW the finish with a brush was as smooth as a babies bum so dont see the need for a roller.

And whilst still on the subject - how should you dispose of brush cleaner? Not down the drain obviously. Spot the diy noob lol.

Simon

David_Wallis
28 December 2006, 15:16
or you could use eggshell :D

Turtle
28 December 2006, 20:19
Windows sills and skirting boards are looking a little shabby so thought Id regloss them.

Got Dulux quick drying gloss for wood. Using a pretty small brush to get into the niggly corners but the finish looks horrible. No matter how hard I try I can still see the brush strokes.

Is it just crap paint or do I need a certain type of brush to get a nice even finish?

Simon
I bought some of Dulux quick drying gloss last week. It got binned later that day as the finish was horrific! I'm back on oil based liquid gloss again. It may take ages to dry and stink the house out, but at least it looks good.

salsa-king
29 December 2006, 19:16
nothing wrong with dulux 'trade' aquatech Under coat and gloss, but even though its water base you still need to second coat the second day etc (not as soon as its dry) trust me thegloss applies a lot easier. washing brushes out... with the aquatech gloss, you still might have to rinse with white spirit/brush cleaner. i wrote to Dulux a number of years ago when they first brought it out, and had great problems washing the gloss out in water. the letter back said they were aware of the problem and said rinsing out with W/S would help. they also sent me a free 5litre voucher for the costs of my purdy brushes!!! so I bought a 5litre tin of Diamond Glaze water base varnish (£50) lol


back to topic, pre the surface and make sure you undercost before glossing. Non Drip gloss is a waste of time, its for amateurs, non drip is ticksotropic (sp) it means you can't mix it up!! or it turns back to a liquid.

stick with Dulux TRADE gloss, undercoat either with oil base U/C or the Dulux acylic primer/undercoat, this will be dry in hours or less and you can gloss the same day.

Eggshell, oil base, is self undercoating, so you prep the surface and you undercoat with the eggshell then second coat eggshell.

Dulux do a water base Diamond (x10 times tougher) eggshell now, its great. easy to apply.. but I've still found it best to second coat the next day, as it seems very 'searching' and softens up the first coat. When fully dry on the second day its applies great on it's self.


btw... you get what you pay for with paint... unless you pay throgh the nose at sainburys for farrow&ball/1066 paint or fired earth LOL

think that covers everything.

Chip
29 December 2006, 23:22
or you could use eggshell :D

Yep, works a treat for me.

Chip

scoobyboy
30 December 2006, 15:38
i tried the trade stuff never again it was crap so i just use dulux non drip and never had a problem.

salsa-king
30 December 2006, 18:33
why do you say that?

dan100381
31 December 2006, 20:02
You could always use a small gloss Roller for the main sections of the door (foam roller) and then brush it out lightly after. It is very quick to do and you can get a nice even coat.

HOWY
01 January 2007, 22:27
You could always use a small gloss Roller for the main sections of the door (foam roller) and then brush it out lightly after. It is very quick to do and you can get a nice even coat.

Always use dulux liquid gloss brilliant white the best paint but don't over fill your brush or you will get runs / sags tip for painting radiators let them warm up a bit then paint them with very little paint on brush keep checking for runs and you will get a good finish providing you have lightly sanded surface first


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