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mplaczek 23 October 2006, 13:11 Just wondering if I could pick your brains for a little advice :)
My wife does quite a bit of photography and I was thinking of buying something for her birthday that would help her on her way...
We currently have a canon 350D
She does a lot of reasonably close up indoor work. So I think the light is a
the major contributer to poor results:
I was thinking of better flash than the built in one...
or one of those flash rings due to much of the work being close up...
but a tripod would also help in low light...
or perhaps a lens better equipped to handle low light... ???
I was thinking of spending a couple hundred pounds... but I'm also prepared to stretch further for something that you feel would be really really helpful :)
Any thoughts??? :confused:
Daryl 23 October 2006, 13:43 A Canon EF-S 60mm Macro (http://www.photozone.de/8Reviews/lenses/canon_60_28/index.htm) is great for close up work, and the f2.8 maximum aperture will make the most of available light. It makes a great portrait lens, as well. Cost is about £280, or less if you buy it from kerso (http://bbs.scoobynet.com/photography-360/551979-cheapest-place-l-lens.html).
Even with the above, a tripod is still pretty much essential for macro work. Look at a Manfrotto 190PRO (http://www.manfrotto.com/Jahia/site/manfrotto/cache/offonce/pid/2050?livid=68&lsf=68&child=2) or 055PRO (http://www.manfrotto.com/Jahia/site/manfrotto/cache/offonce/pid/2277?livid=68&lsf=68&child=2) with a 488RC2 (http://www.manfrotto.com/Jahia/site/manfrotto/cache/offonce/pid/2306?livid=80|81&idx=83) ball head. Prices should be from about £80-£100 for the tripod and about £50 for the head.
You could also get a flash, but I think you tend to get better results using natural light. If you want to go down that line, try a Canon 430EX, about £180 :)
Gordo 23 October 2006, 13:44 An amateur modelling session? :)
AndyC_772 23 October 2006, 13:50 Best to ask her, IMHO.
A good tripod will help for still subjects, but if she's photographing kids, pets or other moving targets, it won't.
I'd consider a separate flashgun - say, the Canon 430EX (£180) - plus a cable to allow it to be moved off the camera (Canon Off-camera shoe cord 2 @ £40).
It's the ability to locate the flash away from the camera that's really important, you get a much more natural looking effect if you can aim it at a large, reflective surface (like the ceiling, for example). The macro ring lights are expensive and, though ideal for really close-up work, aren't so versatile.
Simon C 23 October 2006, 14:14 Just give her your credit card and tell her to go shopping!!!
mplaczek 23 October 2006, 14:55 Thanks for the suggestions... very very helpful indeed.
For someone that plays with photography only a little, it is hard to know what will be a suitable yet versitle accessory.
Additionally, there are so many accessories out there, it is very easy to make a very expensive mistake if you don't exactly know what will be best...
:D
John Catlin 23 October 2006, 15:13 Night School ????????
:) :) :)
andyVI 23 October 2006, 16:19 howabout an course?
Experience Seminars: Seminars (http://www.experience-seminars.co.uk/intro-seminar06.php)
I've done quite a few of these and they've been invaluable.
There's one specifically for lowlight and one for close-up
Pumpkin 23 October 2006, 17:25 Macro lens (or fast standard lens)
Flashgun
Tripod
or even a lighting kit - eg tungsten studio lights or flash - there are several beginners kits which have all you need to get started.
Hoppy 23 October 2006, 18:33 If she's really keen, she will know what she wants so best to ask. She may be longing for a pukka macro lens like the lovely Canon 60mm EF-S but unless she's really into really close close-ups this will be overkill and blow your entire budget. Ditto ring-flash etc.
So my list would look like this:
Canon 50mm f/1.8 lens, 70 quid
Hoya 52mm close-up lenses +1 and +2, 14 quid each
Canon lens hood, 18 quid (or rubber Jessops one for a fiver)
Canon 430EX flash, 170 quid
Lumiquest Ultrasoft flash diffuser, 23 quid
Manfrotto 728B tripod inc head, 80 quid OR
Manfrotto 190-Pro (must be Pro model with moveable centre-column for good close-ups) for 80 quid plus another 50 quid for a 484RC2 ball-head plus quick release.
It breaks your budget but that's a lot of nice kit that can really broaden her photographic horizons, and not just for close-ups. If money's tight, drop the tripod.
You copuld get it all delivered next day from Warehouse Express Online (http://www.warehouseexpress.com)
Cheers,
Richard.
mplaczek 23 October 2006, 19:25 Wow... that is a great shopping list!
Do you think you could throw a similar one together for my brother, mum, dad and my nephew for christmas too... that would save me a great deal of time and stress... :D
No, seriously... that is fantastic. Thanks for the advice :)
AndyC_772 23 October 2006, 19:30 Looks like a very good list to me - personally I wouldn't bother with the flash diffuser (you can make one yourself out of cardboard, paper and foil like I did), but I would add the Canon off-camera flash cord 2 @ £40. If you're feeling flush, the wireless flash transmitter ST-E2 (£130ish) is a wonderful gadget that I use all the time indoors.
Hoppy 23 October 2006, 21:33 My pleasure mate :)
But Andy has a point about the flash extension chord which will give her a lot more lighting options. If you go that route though, she'll certainly need a tripod for either the camera or flash, unless you married an octupus.
Andy's a cheapskate on the Lumiquest though ;)
As you say, it's all about light and how it's managed. But with a fast lens like the 50mm f/1.8, tripod and flash, that's pretty much all the options covered. The rest is down to her.
Be nice to see some of her pics one day :)
Richard.
AndyC_772 23 October 2006, 21:38 Cheapskate? Undoubtedly! But, if it works, don't mend it... ;)
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swiss scooby 23 October 2006, 22:22 That's a pretty tough question. My suggestion is NOT getting a lens unless you know exactely what kind of photography she prefers. My list looks as follows:
- 430EX flash (plus as suggested the cord) -> Great suggestion
- Photobook (National Geographic has great books)
- Gift coupon for a framed large print (she chooses the photo)
- Camera Bag (this could also be a tough one)
- Maybe a spare CF-Card (Sandisk 2GB extreme III) with Card Reader (Sandisk)
- A bigger TFT Monitor
- Photoshop Software (if she doesn't have it yet)
- Photocourse
... or a combination of the above. ;)
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