I have negotiated a good deal on a group buy for Black Diamond brake disks, pads and brake lines.

The disks are available in three options, drilled, grooved and combi disks:

http://www.evolutionmms.co.uk/subaru/drilled.jpg http://www.evolutionmms.co.uk/subaru/grooved.jpg http://www.evolutionmms.co.uk/subaru/combis.jpg

See image below for BD's 'Predator' pads:

http://www.evolutionmms.co.uk/subaru/pad-front.jpg

Prices are as follows:

FRONT DISCS
........AGE...........SIZE.mm......DRILLED...GROOV ED...COMBI
SPORT...12/95>00......260 vented...£98.10....£96.40....£109.90
SPORT...12/95>00......277 vented...£111.00...£111.00...£123.60
TURBO...03/94>12/95...277 vented...£111.00...£111.00...£123.60
TURBO...01/96>12/97...277 vented...£111.00...£111.00...£123.60
TURBO...01/98>00......277 vented...£111.00...£111.00...£123.60
TURBO...03/94>12/95...295 vented...£135.60...£137.20...£147.38
TURBO...01/96>12/97...295 vented...£135.60...£137.20...£147.38
TURBO...01/98>00......295 vented...£135.60...£137.20...£147.38

REAR DISCS
........AGE...........SIZE.mm......DRILLED...GROOV ED...COMBI
SPORT...12/95>12/98...266 solid....£87.00....£84.25....£98.80
SPORT...01/99>00......266 solid....£87.00....£84.25....£98.80
TURBO...03/94>12/97...266 solid....£87.00....£84.25....£98.80
TURBO...01/98>00......266 solid....£87.00....£84.25....£98.80
TURBO...03/94>12/97...266 vented...£111.53...£111.00...£123.30
TURBO...01/09/>00.....266 vented...£111.53...£111.00...£123.30

FRONT PADS
........AGE...........PART.No...PRICE
SPORT...12/95>00......PP948.....£33.28
SPORT...12/95>00......PP948.....£33.28
TURBO...03/94>12/95...PP948.....£33.28
TURBO...01/96>12/97...PP1794....£32.70
TURBO...01/09/>00.....PP1416....£32.60
TURBO...03/94>12/95...PP948.....£32.70
TURBO...01/96>12/97...PP1794....£32.70
TURBO...01/98>00......PP1416....£32.60

REAR PADS
........AGE...........PART.No...PRICE
SPORT...12/95>12/98...PP790.....£25.10
SPORT...01/99>00......PP1999....£17.44
TURBO...03/94>12/97...PP790.....£25.10
TURBO...01/98>00......PP1999....£17.44
TURBO...03/94>12/97...PP790.....£25.10
TURBO...01/09/>00.....PP1999....£17.44

BRAKE HOSES
........AGE.....PART.No...PRICE
SPORT...95>00...DHK058....£37.30
TURBO...94>00...DHK059....£37.30

Postage is £10 per pair of disks, and all prices include VAT. The prices are based upon a group buy of 5 sets of disks and pads (10% off MRRP), an extra 2.5% (12.5% off MRRP) will be taken off these prices if we have 6-10 people in a group buy and a further 2.5% (15% off MRRP) for 10+ OFF DISKS ONLY - the pads are already fully discounted.
Brake pads are not available separately. I can also ask for prices for model years 2000> if this is required.

If you wish to participate please add your username and requirement to the list below:

[1] speedydaveb - 295mm front drilled disks, pads and hoses for turbo model.

Hi I have a MY99 2000 Turbo 4 pot caliper, looking for a set of discs pads and hoses for the front, how can I tell if I need 277mm or 295mm discs

Hi I have a MY99 2000 Turbo 4 pot caliper, looking for a set of discs pads and hoses for the front, how can I tell if I need 277mm or 295mm discs

I think all MY99/00 have the 295 size front disc.

I think all MY99/00 have the 295 size front disc.
According to the info I got, all turbos from 01/98 will have the 295mm disk.
Sounds about right as my MY00 also has 4-pots and needs 295mm disks.

Ok mate count me in for a set of 295 mm front combis,pads and hoses

Well that's two so far...

[1] speedydaveb - 295mm front drilled disks, pads and hoses for turbo model.
[2] jmc1968 - 295mm front combi disks, pads and hoses for turbo model.

Look at it this way, they are better than the OEM parts and a lot cheaper! Thanks.

what type of hoses are they

According to the info I got, all turbos from 01/98 will have the 295mm disk.
Sounds about right as my MY00 also has 4-pots and needs 295mm disks.Think you'll find it's from 01/99 they have 295mm discs - prior to that they are 277mm.
If you have 4 pot calipers with Subaru embossed on them, then you have 295mm discs :D

what type of hoses are they

They are also made by Black Diamond and are the braided type. I should have mentioned that.
If anyone has a photo of the BD hoses please can you post it here or a link to them as I cannot find a pic myself. TVM.

if possible i would like just the hoses as i have just purchased some discs and pads which i will be fitting shortly . . . . . .

TURBO...94>00...DHK059....£37.30

if possible i would like just the hoses as i have just purchased some discs and pads which i will be fitting shortly . . . . . .

TURBO...94>00...DHK059....£37.30

The chap did just say that pads weren't available separately.
I'll check this is ok with him and get back to you.

hi,

im steve and along with scoobynet member (dave) we have arranged this group buy offer, dave has asked me for some info on the products.

the black diamond website is
http://www.blackdiamondperformance.com

here you should find all the info you will need on these excellent brakes (clutches too!!)

for more info and any questions then please contact myself
mail@kwikbitz.co.uk 01472 251155

if any orders are required then please go through Dave as he has started this thread and done the ground work

Regards
Steve

ps...

further to my initial contact with Dave, I am now able to accept credit card transactions over the phone (this should ease any payment problems)

regards
steve

The chap did just say that pads weren't available separately.
I'll check this is ok with him and get back to you.

If there is a problem with delivering just the hoses to you, I'll add your hoses onto my order and post them out to you myself.

I have also found a picture of the brake hoses on the Black Diamond website:
http://www.blackdiamondperformance.com/images/BD_hoses.jpg
Note that the hoses are braided steel and steel in colour rather than black (not that this should affect anyones choice!)

The list so far:
[1] speedydaveb - 295mm front drilled disks, pads and hoses for turbo model.
[2] jmc1968 - 295mm front combi disks, pads and hoses for turbo model.
[3] dazza1802 - hoses for turbo model.

nah,tiz ok m8..
ordered them now..


and it was hoses i wanted not pads
thanks anyway

daz . . .

Updated list:
[1] speedydaveb - 295mm front drilled disks, pads and hoses for turbo model.
[2] jmc1968 - 295mm front combi disks, pads and hoses for turbo model.

Would strongly advise against going for drilled Black Diamond discs.

They cracked running trivial power and normal road tyres in moderate track use. Not just small cracks through the drilled holes, but proper full thickness fractures that made the brakes unsafe and horribly juddery.

The set was replaced under warranty and the same happened again at the first track outing.

I had originally asked for grooved but they were n/a and I was reassurred they would not crack.

So you would recomend the grooved only disks

I got second hand AP 4 pots as I was fed up with all the hassle.

I tried the x-drilled/grooved on my M3 and had the same problem (cracks around holes) as John posted above after a single track day. I am aware of others who have had the same problem too!

These discs don't sound to hot after all.
Would I be just as well replacing them with standard ones

It is interesting to hear your comments. I have not tried Black Diamond disks myself, and have heard nothing but good reviews from people until now.

Driving a car around a track is a lot different than driving it on a road as obviously the brakes will be used a lot more than under normal driving conditions with less time for them to cool in between brake applications.

Has anyone had problems with these disks under normal driving conditions ?

I drove around on a third trackday on Subaru discs. They didn't crack or warp.

We're only talking 4 or 5 sessions of 5 laps of knockhill here, 5 or 6 minutes at a time with stops from 115-70mph at the end of the main straight, 90-60 on a short straight, and about 110-40 for the hairpin from memory.

They are cheap aftermarket discs for undemanding users, don't expect them to be an upgrade IMHO.

Sorry Speedy,
looks like I'm going to pull out of this one.
Did a search on the discs and it seems they don't have a great review.