S.B.
01 February 2004, 09:39
At the moment i have a downstairs toilet but no upstairs toilet. The downstairs one go's straight into the ground. And there is no soil pipe on the house. What sort of job would it be to get a soil pipe fitted so i could fit an upstairs toilet? What sort of costs do you think i would be looking at to get it done properly? :)
alcazar
01 February 2004, 13:13
If you have a room where the toilet would go, putting in a soil stack is not difficult.
All the pipes are uPVC or similar, and push fit, and many can be welded too.
Cutting is relatively easy with a good hacksaw.
You'd probably need to dig up the area outside to lay a new entry to the nearest manhole/inspection cover, but again, it's not rocket science.
And if you have a downstairs loo, it doesn't matter if it takes a couple of days to complete:):
I replaced the soil pipe at my house when I put in a new toilet, and couldn't be bothered to try joining to lead and cast iron!!!
Don't forget that whatever room has the new toilet will also need a water supply for the flush.
Alcazar
Now waiting for all the plumbers to come on here and tell us it's illegal for anyone but a plumber to do this work:D:
S.B.
01 February 2004, 16:46
Thanks for the reply :)
Water supply for flush no problem because i want to put it in the bathroom. :)
I can fit the new suite etc.
Its where you attach the soil pipe to the drainage that's my real problem.
alcazar
02 February 2004, 11:19
Ah, if it's a batyhroom it'll be relatively easy:
there must be waste water going out of the bathroom?
Where does it go to?
Where's the nearest inspection cover?
Now, all you do is plan the route of the soil pipe out of the house and down the wall, dig a hole at the bottom for a nice swept 90 degree bend, and point it at the inspection cover, dig a channel to said i/c, knock a hole in it's wall, and bring in the underground soil pipe, making good with cement afterwards.
A visit to a plumber's merchant will get you advice and any components you need.
Alcazar
Scooby96
03 February 2004, 13:18
Be certain not to discharge into the surface water drainage system. This is not permissible and leads to pollution.
The pipe should run downhill slightly along its entire length (6mm fall / 300mm length) and be adequately supported by brackets at regular intervals to prevent sagging.
S.B.
04 February 2004, 09:45
The waste from the bath/sink goes into a drain hole outside (where the rainwater goes) the downstairs toilet goes straight into the ground thru the concrete floor in the toilet.
alcazar
04 February 2004, 13:25
Ah, but is there a manhole/inspection cover anywhere near?
It's odds on that the bathwater goes into the same drainage system as the dowstairs loo.........it's VERY unlikely to discharge into a surface water drain as noted above, but to be sure, you need to find the nearest manhole, then put some water down the bath drain, and watch for it going through.
After that, it should just be a case of digging up the garden to lay a new pipe into the inspection pit.
Alcazar
Scooby96
04 February 2004, 14:40
Just dont run your new soil pipe inside the house - very messy if it gets blocked - I have seen a few in my time :eek:
mattstant
04 February 2004, 14:48
Be certain not to discharge into the surface water drainage system. This is not permissible and leads to pollution.
Not true if its an older combined sytem with no seperate storm water drain.
check with your local authority they should give you the info for free
TolTec
06 February 2004, 13:52
You might need building regs for this best check with your local building control office.
S.B.
06 February 2004, 16:05
You might need building regs for this best check with your local building control office.
Sounds like hassle :( If it does she will have to carry on going downstairs and not have the convienience of an upstairs bog :D