Anybody in the Horsham, West Sussex area who is/knows one of the above, or can recommend somebody? I need to run approximately 2 meters of pipe to a gas hob.

Alternatively can this be a DIY project? The pipe will run in a channel under the floor. Are there any precautions necessary before it is screeded over. I don't want the cement in the screed to attack the copper pipe?

I think it will attack it, IIRC, you can buy plastic coated pipe.

The cement must not come in contact with the copper, it WILL attack it!
Also, really you should get a Corgi plumber to do it, although you are actually allowed to do gas plumbing in your own house, but, what if the house blows up, and the insurance co ask who did the gas plumbing, you did!! sorry sir, you ain't covered then!!

get a plumber to do it! it'll be easier long term!

Ron..I'm afraid that the law has been changed and that you can not do any DIY work related to gas.

the law has been changed and that you can not do any DIY work related to gas

.......he said , laughing all the way to the bank.....:rolleyes:


;)

a corgi guy will be able to check that all joints etc are perfectly air tight. I mean if you cock up a water joint then it just pisses water and you can redo it. But if you screw the gas up then you could end up taking your house out plus kill people.

Get any gas work done by a corgi guy who has a good name.

I have done some simple plumbing and i just go back and check for leaks a few days later, easy not so easy with gas unless you got the right tools and equipment to detect leaks

Cliff

Mog,
When did the law change?? The guy that fitted our boiler said it was fine for me to do some of the pipes, but that was about 4 months ago, has it changed since then??

Ron

Ron...it has been at least a year, gone are the days when anyone could run a bit of pipe and then get a CORGI reg engineer to connect it to the appliance. You have to be CORGI registered just to run a pipe. It cost me and my business partner £10,000 in fees and lost earnings last year just to be competent in 6 of the available 16 elements of the CORGI requirements to carry out gas related work and this only lasts for 5 years before having to be "retrained". I'm not digging at you but it pisses me off when people advocate a bit of DIY and or moan about how much a CORGI engineer costs.

Mog

Also as a last point would your CORGI man have been happy to take responsibility for all your fitted pipework when he connected it up, as in law he would be doing.....?

[Edited by Mog - 8/20/2003 7:12:26 PM]

Mog,
if you don't like the profession you're in, GET OUT!!!
there are people doing DIY in every trade, so why does it matter that a few people have a go at plumbing?

And yes, my gas man tested all the pipes before he connected up, so where's the problem??

What really get'#s my goat, is that why should it be illegal for someone to work on their own house, fair enough don't work on others and charge, but at the end of the day, if you want to, and can do something, should you not be allowed to???


Ron. AKA, Mr DIY!"

Looks like I've rattled your cage a bit,but I actually love my job on the whole. If you actually think it is ok to do DIY gas work even though its in your own house, then I can't really say any more......I think.

Mog

So, let me get this straight, I could have been Corgi registered last year, but I can't warrant the expense to be registered this year, so, does that make it unsafe for me to do gas work?????

I think not!

Yes in the eyes of the law, The Health and Safety Executive prosecute people on a regular basis for being unregistered and working with gas even if previously registered and competent. Being unregistered makes you imcompetent legally speaking.

Mog

I give up, I for one will carry on doing my own work, cos I can!
I drive too fast on the roads, so why worry about other stupid laws!

The problem with gas is that if you drop a bollock there is a good chance you can do serious damage to other people and property ( remember Ron Dixon ? ), this is why the laws are so stringent now.

Its a joke really, as any old idiot can go into B&Q and buy all the bits to do gas work.

Mog - 10K :eek: how much was the course, and does it finish before lunchtime?

Sorry - seem to have stirred it up a bit out there. Basically I've had a hole in my floor since May and I've been working round it because the CORGI guys I have rung up have either told me straight the jobs too small & not interested (one was going to have to travel 8 miles!!!) or they say they will take a look & don't show.

I know its only a small job but surely somebody is qualified & interested, hence my opening question. I'd rather the work went to somebody via scoobynet if at all poss.

Still if I can't get a qualified person I'll have to bodge it myself. After all, if I can fix my brakes I can probably connect up a gas hob.

Next thing I'll read is somebody telling me it became illegal to work on my car last year a well!

It wouldn't surprise me if they made a law like that, they seem to mess around like that all the time..

Obviously no-one has ever explained what TV is all about!

Quote:Next thing I'll read is somebody telling me it became illegal to work on my car last year a well

Well do you MOT your car yourself???

Us corgi registered installers get it in the neck all the time,people dont realise the consiquenses of badly installed appliances,
hey you can solder 2 pipes together so your competent to connect up a gas hob??What about a soundness test,what about a let by test,what about checking the gas rate on the appliance you have just installed,what about the pipe in the concrete floor, will you just be using standard copper pipe??;)(hint)What about sizing up to see if you need ventilation for the appliance,dont forget the special part you need on the pipe to the gas hob;)......................etc etc etc

So ,easy isnt it:D

I could go on and on but i wont:)

Just pay someone whos registered to do it,it will only cost about £40 ,why take chances with your life for the sake of £40??

SN

mj...There are 16 elements you can be registered in with a few sub elements as well, the cost for training varies according to the element...£150-£1250 + vat per element then the same amount again for the assessment which you have to pass 100%, then add loss of earnings and £10k isn't that bad for 6 elements.

Mog

I am sure you could get a book read the relevant info and do it yourself. However do it wrong and you risk your life and others. I mean you tile a wall and one tile doesn't stick, so what you stick it back up or you drill a hole for wa shelf and drill it in the wrong place, you just fill it and redrill.

If you touch the gas and do it wrong you could end up dead or in jail. Also any gas work you do will not be covered by your insurance.

I watched a program about a self-build and the guy did all the pluming, really good job. However he did not connect up the gas or install the boiler coz you need to leave that to the guys that are qualified.

I like to do as much as i can DIY wise but I would never consider touching gas its just not worth it. Also get your appliances serviced and checked once a year. When we moved into our flat we got someone out straight away and he noted that the fire was in a very dangerous state and took it off the wall and isolated the gas supply to it. So I am glad we got them checked!!!!.

Cliff

What's an MOT?

But seriously, I recognise the need for any job to be done properly. If I can do it I will. If I can't I don't. That is why the job has been waiting since May. My problem is the job just seems to be too small for anybody to need, hence the attempt to see if there was interest via SNET.

As for the £40; well worth it. I'd pay several times that to get the job done properly & stop my wife nagging.

I work for the gas emergency service if u like, and as part of my daily job I see many "dangerous fittings" left by would be competent installers or DIY ers. I have seen the result of things gone wrong and often these are fatal. All too often people think they are "competent", but if never trained proffesionaly on this type of work cannot be 100% sure. Hence leave it to the proffesionals, they have spent a lot of time and money to get a little corgi card that says they can do this.