All very nice... but have you noticed the difference in running, audio quality etc? Very interested...

Cheers :)
Richard


ps Wish I had access to that kind of machining kit :eek:

I want a milling machine, slotting saw and bits please santa

I have some stuff but that is :cool:

How big is that lathe??

Ours isnt small but :eek:

David

I'll still have a kit if you make one!!!

Fizz,
Bought 20 gold plated ring connectors, £16 fecking quid.
£1 each to you then ;) :D (you'll be needing seven + one larger one for the main battery terminal (not priced up that yet either))

may have enough cable to make one kit, still not thought about cost though,
much less hassle if I could just sell a few blocks :(

David,
want to see the rest of the workshop?, just for jealousy's sake :D

Andy

If he doesnt, i do:D

Yes!

Ummm.... anyone fancy posting an on-topic reply about DIY earth mod, rather than just about pretty pictures of big tools? ;)

Like - have you guys seen a noticeable difference? If so, where? Smoother running? Car audio? Etc?

Thanks :)
Richard

Sorry Rich, http://www.gamers-forums.com/smilies/otn/wink/thumb.gif

probably only turned the stereo on about twice in the last 7 months of ownership.

Exhaust note is the only Audio I need. :D

Mod was done at the same time as new link ECU, so a little difficult to quantify if it made any difference.
got 255 horses now instead of 232. ;)
I bow to Bobs knowledge, when he tells me that it was a worthwhile idea...so from That I guess it works ???
no R&D done by me, that's Bobs department. (Bob Rawle that is)

Andy

a mate has got me camera images/smilies/mad.gif...must go and repossess ;)

OK How much for a block then :D

Excuse quality, as taken with the video camera (mate was not in)

http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/getpic2.asp?File=200321819110412014.jpg

For an Idea of size, note the coffee cup I put on the head stock :D

http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/getpic2.asp?File=200321819110922629.jpg
http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/getpic2.asp?File=200321819110640050.jpg

A Smaller but more expensive lathe (what we call the "rolls royce lathe") :D
http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/getpic2.asp?File=200321819110222210.jpg
http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/getpic2.asp?File=200321819110161216.jpg

last off topic post from me, I promise Steve ;)

Andy

[Edited by Fuzz - 2/18/2003 7:12:02 PM]

nice.. different league to the stuff I have.

David

Thanks Fuzz! If Bob says it's worth doing, then it's worth doing :D Anyone else have any thoughts?

Nice workshop too :eek:

Cheers
Richard

Fuzz here :D

round a mates to borrow his digital camera as mine has not returned yet. images/smilies/mad.gif
So pics will be up in a mo (when his batteries have charged :rolleyes:)

Going back to the question of whether the mod does anything....get this :-
I put the earth block on last night and made and fitted the final three cables that were not fitted on the first attempt.
Now the car has developed a glitch in that it tries ticking over at 2000 rpm....now tell me the earth mod does nothing :D
will have to get Bob on the case I think...:( more money ;)

Andy.

I was assured by Bob when I was round his, on friday that diconnecting the bat won't "re-set" or change any setting within ECU, so I cant blame that... :(

Hoo...Bloody....ray :D

after much hassle with software I didn't know my way around, I ended up mailing it to myself....

http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/getpic2.asp?File=20032200144418529.jpg


Andy
Edited to enhance brightness :rolleyes:


[Edited by Fuzz - 2/20/2003 12:03:38 AM]

I've heard people talking about this - would anyone mind answering a really stupid question and telling me how this works? What's it meant to improve? :confused: :)

...didn't have much luck with search...please ignore me if I'm missing something obvious :)

Thanks

Jen

Had a hunt around for you Jen, this is what I managed to cut and paste from various sites......

From HKS site.
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improved idle and drivability are often obtained as the additional grounding points equalize resistance and voltage between various ground points.

From Scoobymods site.
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The key behind this modification is very logical. The accuracy of how a sensor reads data from the engine and transmits it to the ECU is directly related to the amount of electrical noise that interferes with the sensor itself.

Looking at the stock grounding job it's very easy to see where improvements can be made. It's also noteworthy, that the stock grounds (as with any grounds) will deteriorate through time. So doing this is a good thing.

Now remember, this isn't going to give you any sort of horsepower increase (though it's arguable), but it will smooth out the way the car drives and feels.



From jp-earthing site.
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'97 IMPREZA ??? Vr?
Effectiveness? Good starting and idling stability of engine. Engine torque up at low and middle speed. Getting a better accelerator responceat 2 and 3 gear. Boost up
Mileage: 0.8?1.5km?L ??
Owner's comment: E/G starting is much better. Boost is good at over ????rpm.
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'98 IMPREZA ??? STi Vr5
Effectiveness? Good starting. Engine torque up at low and middle speed. Getting a better accelerator responce. Getting brighter on head lamps.
Mileage: 1.0km??L ??
Owner's comment: When I saw the Earthing System, could not believe it and I felt expensive for cost. But it is incredible parts. Because Good starting. Engine torque up at low and middle speed,Getting brighter on head lamps, Mileage up.I am waiting impatiently for ioining next dart traial race.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
'?? SUBARU IMPREZA WRX.Atype
Effectiveness? Good starting. Engine torque up at low and middle speed. Getting a better accelerator responce. Getting brighter on head lamps.
Mileage: 1.0km??L ??
Owner's comment: Engine torque up exactly. It was bodily sensation.

Hope that helps :D
Andy

Andy - that's fantastic :D Thanks for that, hopefully I'll have an idea of what people are going on about...and of course that's another mod for hte list :rolleyes::cool::D

...can't beleive I didn't think of searching other sites, sorry, I need an early night :)

Jen

mutts nuts mate...

I can't get the search to work, so could you tell me which thickness of wire and how to route it around the engine bay please?

Gus.

So when's the release date for the FuzzEarth kit (tm)?? ;) :)

Looks good and, as with most aftermarket mods, it's a "thing" I haven't got and therefore must have.......

:rolleyes:

:D

LOL,

I am working on it Honest !

price for earth block :eek:
bolt prices.
cable prices.
conector prices.
cable length required.
time to solder connectors.
time to make earth block.

looks like it's going to batches of TEN at a time to make it feasable and worth while my time :D

Hang in there
Andy

I want one when ready m8..

Me too please:D

What are your aluminium bar requirements.. I might be able to help you out..

Fizz,
Deal is already struck on Bar and use of tools / workshop in my own time.
sorry.

Andy

hello andy

Could i have two of the blocks and the bolts the rest of the stuff as you know i have

Glad to see you keeping the car clean

Jonathan



[Edited by gossythevaleter - 3/11/2003 7:26:56 AM]

Andy,
Can I have the same?
I already have the cables and crimps! Just need a neat way to fix it to the bat:)

Iain.

Quick question for you guys:

Where do you fit the one for the Alternator?
Is is to where the alternator fixes on to the manifold?
My alternator appears to have no Neg return? Does it use chassis?

This is the only one I'm stuck on, all the other connection points are self explanitory.

Cheers

Muddy

Cheers Fuzz,

That's cleared that up for me.

Now to get cable and crimps. From work I think! :):)

Thanks again.

Muddy

mmmmmmm
i want one