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chiark
12 December 2002, 10:27
Our neighbours have just been burgled. Not a nice thing for your 13 year old daughter to come home and find :( . Same house as us, even same uPVC door :eek: .

Police have recommended fitting something called a "jemmi-safe" to uPVC doors. This is a device that fits on the outside of the door and makes it impossible to get anything in the crack of the door in order to jemmy it open.

Trouble is, the police can't tell me a supplier, victim support can't, CSAC can't, their suppliers can't and their supplier's suppliers can't!

Anyone heard of this, and know any suppliers?

Ta,
Nick.
(paranoid)

P20SPD
12 December 2002, 11:42
Bloody typical:rolleyes:

It obviously does not exist.

How many locking points do yyour doors have? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5?

Some pvc doors have 1 (really poor), our last house had 7+ IIRC

what would scooby do
12 December 2002, 11:46
Is this it ? jemmy (http://www.insight-security.com/pf17-3.htm)

you will need to find local supplier I guess, you can also buy anti jemmy hinges etc afaik

chiark
12 December 2002, 11:51
Steve, it's got loads, and the door's backed by a £1000 break in guarantee. It's the first time anyone's got through the door according to both the police and the fitters... The force must have been immense, they've bent the handle. B45T4R05....

WWSD, I found that from a quick google and phoned 'em up. Not suitable for uPVC doors. They put me onto someone else, who put me onto someone else, who put me onto someone else, who said "never 'eard of 'em mate".

Any clues?

P20SPD
12 December 2002, 12:04
In that case, THEY obviously WANTED to be in.

I cant see why the above wont work on a upvc door. All it needs is some sort of cover on the door/frame that hides the gap between the door and frame.

Although that to me looks pretty weak, and would probably come off with ease, thus making it pointless.

Stuck for thoughts:confused:

chiark
12 December 2002, 12:10
Naah, wouldn't work. It needs to attach to a frame, and the frames are bevelled for uPVC so it couldn't attach properly.

It's worried me, and it's worrying the neighbours. They took 3 stereos, 2 cameras, but left the TV, video, speakers, ...

Police have advised "caution" as they might be back for the rest :(

I've been suggested to add patio locks to the door at the top and bottom. Might give that a go.

The other doors are wooden, and it would take effort and lots of noise to come thru them, setting the alarm off immediately...

JASON H
12 December 2002, 17:09
Could'nt you put a shock sensor conected to your alarm on ??
I work in d/glazing and i car'nt say i have heard of the said device.

Huxley
13 December 2002, 00:35
Chairk if i was you I would get those doors put onto the alarm as well the contacts for upvc doors cost peanuts if you want a couple let me know as that's what I do all day every day:rolleyes: "god I must get a new job after nearly 15years in the trade":eek:

If you need some email me your address and I will put a couple in the post.


Huxley

ChrisB
13 December 2002, 10:15
Nick,

http://www.locksdirect.sagenet.co.uk/windowdoorlocks.htm

Scroll down to find ERA SECURSTRIP:

"Anti jemmy strip suitable for inward opening doors
Effective deterrent against forced entry
Inexpensive security
To fit: front doors, back/side doors and french doors"

Any use?

P20SPD
13 December 2002, 10:17
Chris, thats similar to the one in the link above. They are only suitable for wooden doors apparently.

edited as spelling was poor:D

[Edited by P20SPD - 12/13/2002 9:18:55 AM]

ChrisB
13 December 2002, 10:18
I'll get me coat!

P20SPD
13 December 2002, 10:20
Is that hung on the DIY coat hook near the door:D, hope it was suitably mounted, as we dont want your coat to have fallen on the floor:D;)

ChrisB
13 December 2002, 11:34
Oh yes, Rawlplug 10mm x 50mm brick and masonary fittings.

Seriously, I can't find a thing on any of the search engines bar the one above.

chiark
13 December 2002, 11:35
Yep, that's the same as above - cheers tho Chris.

It's really really strange that the police call these "jemmi-safe", which looks to me like a trademark name, but can I find anyone who knows anything about 'em? Can I balls :)

Two extra sash jammers went on the door yesterday...

Nick.

David_Wallis
13 December 2002, 13:15
do you need to be able to open the door from outside?

remove the handle... then cut a length of wood 2x2 and lay it in the track and put a wedge in at the end.. until you sort something.

David


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