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velryba 20 December 2002, 02:50 damn you ;)
and thats the car stand still, hmmm nice
I think I'll try to make a bigger gap on the spark plug or even to get those with 4 legs to have more sparks...
MRK_IV 20 December 2002, 20:38 Had mine fitted at SCC - can't rate their service highly enough - good job guys!
However, still don't have flames :(
Richard, still got that speedo problem, despite the earthing mod: I'm convinced there's something dodgy with the km/h to mph convertor)
But will persevere!
Step 1) Use Octane NF booster and Optimax
2) Try widening the spark gap
3) Try a multispark plug
4) Err...apart from that, I don't know! De-cat centre pipe, but have to retain the cat on the primary turbo - a new downpipe on the second turbo won't help will it?
Yup, I'm now on a mission - my Family battlebus will spit fire! :D
Richard Askew 21 December 2002, 10:21 Hi Gary - any cat at all ios a bad thing. Mine now fully decatted is launching 6footers apparently ;)
Jamesn 21 December 2002, 17:18 Hmmm Flamer kits....
I love the idea of a small flame between gear changes (suggestion of mods and high BHP), but this looks like it has gone way too far.
This is "Max Power" like now, and it will soon taint scooby drivers with another brush of tar which will get us all pulled over more and more.
Sound like a killjoy?
I think this is bad news for car modifiers - making us appear like louts driving flame throwers around.
I dont want to be "flamed" for this, just accept my view.
MRK_IV 21 December 2002, 18:37 Hey Rich -
Unfortunately all the advice I've heard is that the small cat on the primary turbo has to stay to prevent over-speeding. Looking at all the down-pipe replacements, no-one makes on which gets rid of the cat, so I reckon it's advice well heeded. When the second Turbo kicks in, at 4K, there is no restriction, so I should see something then. Will increase spark gap tomorrow.
Oh - Naive question: NF 6RON booster: How much per tank?
Cheers
RichardPON 21 December 2002, 19:19 Jamesn,
I know exactly what you're trying to say, but unfortunately, the kit does look good, and work well with most turbocharged cars.
The problem lies with those who drive relatively pathetic little cars, and want flames to impress 15 year old girls and make them drop their underwear.
Believe me, I put up with the phonecalls all day long.
e.g ......
Customer: "Can I have one of your flamer kits please?"
Me: "What car's it for?"
Customer: "Nova SR....."
Me: "Sorry mate, wont work etc, only for turbo cars etc"
Customer: "Well how much to turbocharge my car?"
I 5hit you not - I get about 10 of those type calls a day.
However, when three of us had the flamer kits on our cossies way back about three years ago, they'd come about because one of them used to flame anyway. It was suggested that it would make a good little bit of fun to have the ability to flame on the over-run, and the kit was born. We ran around with them on for a while, until people started asking about them, and then it just went mental.
Look, at the end of the day, the flamer kit is a bit of fun. The Max P brigade types aren't using our kit at all. The latest versions that have NOTHING to do with us are ones that either inject NOS into the exhaust, or ignite butane supplied from a cannister in the boot!
I wouldn't worry too much about the flamer kit being too Max P - I'd worry about the scooby ;) ;) ;)
StudentScooby 22 December 2002, 21:15 Just got my flamer kit fitted carn't get it to flame on stand still but works well moving get some pics up soon.
velryba 23 December 2002, 06:12 oh btw can you see the corner up there :p
ScoobyDoo69 24 December 2002, 01:21 So where exactly is the hole for the spark plug made? Is it made in the back box, or the tail pipe. Thx
ScoobyDoo69
Brun 24 December 2002, 01:33 Next to the backbox on the tail pipe i believe.
velryba 24 December 2002, 04:08 if I get someone with a digicam I'll post any pics you like, but have no digi so no pics.
scoobydoo69 YHM as could not upload the drawing
StudentScooby 25 December 2002, 17:36 OH MY GOD! i had flames higher than my spoiler! the looks on peoples faces behind me when they come past! out of all the £0000s i have spent on mods this 1 is the ultimate.
http://www.claz84.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/forums/flamerkit.WMV
The spark
http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/getpic2.asp?File=20021218234440343181.jpg
Alittle one to start with
http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/getpic2.asp?File=20021218234440198005.jpg
Getting there
http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/getpic2.asp?File=20021218234440164693.jpg
Mental
http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/getpic2.asp?File=20021218234440497585.jpg
Nearly got burnt by this one and i am not joking !
http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/getpic2.asp?File=20021218234440498908.jpg
http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/getpic2.asp?File=20021218234440448934.jpg
Neanderthal 16 March 2003, 19:52 By making the gap smaller can you adjust how large the flames get produced? I'd love one but wouldn't want it to produce flames that went above the spoiler.
Gridlock Mikey 22 March 2003, 11:45 Yeah you would ;)
Mikey :cool:
Neanderthal 22 March 2003, 15:58 Maybe ;)
But is it possible?
baz bolton 23 March 2003, 16:53 ok just fitted home made flammer kit, but cannot get spark !
been through and checked all wirring all seem ok even get power in ht lead but when plug is put on no spark comes from it ?
any ideas ??
sc00by57 23 March 2003, 22:36 hopefully have my flamer kit 2moro(thanx scc)! best have a late one at work and fit it! pics to follow soon!
steve
redwrx 24 March 2003, 00:56 Do you need (have to have) the box of electronics for these to work ...... or will just a switchable feed to the feeder coil do ???
Im thinking of fitting one ..
thanks
velryba 24 March 2003, 12:31 well people, I have the kit for some times and was happy with it and others telling me how cool it looks and blablabla,
but it was yesterday when I've seen it with my own eyes for the 1st time (thanks Mikey) and FOOOOOOOKING HELL :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
I didn't know that it's that good ;)
and who ever will say that it's a cheap way to do a max power thingy on my car ---- yeeeeeeeeeeeah right, wasn't cheap and any more max power thingies like this one I'll be happy to put on
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
Gridlock Mikey 25 March 2003, 10:56 My pleasure ;)
Mikey :cool:
sc00by57 25 March 2003, 18:33 my kit is now fitted best i go out after dark to have a see how things are performing! any tips for better flames?
steve
velryba 25 March 2003, 20:18 yeah masage your mouth so it doesn't hurt that much from all the grins :D:D:D
sc00by57 26 March 2003, 18:33 http://smilies.networkessence.net/s/otn/realhappy/jump.gif
http://mysmilies.creativesell.net/ups/supersaiyan2mvegeta/dogpile.gif
http://www.gamers-forums.com/smilies/contrib/lilly/hmm3grin3thumborange.gif
right think that just about sums it up! anyone with a flamerkit can picture this im sure!
dark country lanes at 10 o'clock last night! flamer kit turned on and a nice little blat! the first time caught me by surprise as couldnt really see much coming from behind,but then WOW wot on earth was that! just glad no-one was behind me as im sure they would of been blind!
steve(serious grins from me)
Leg@cy 26 March 2003, 23:08 Can anyone post a few pics of how the fitting/spark plug looks in the exhaust.
How obvious is it during daylight hours???
Is the'housing' for the spark plug hidden by the rear bumper??
Cheers in advance
Phil
Neanderthal 27 March 2003, 18:45 Phil, read page 10 of this thread m8 ;)
Leg@cy 28 March 2003, 10:18 I take it the 1st picture was taken while the engine was switched off???
Can anyone show a few more 'revealing piccies' of what it looks like from underneath an around the exhaust??
I'm just a bit concerened that it'll stick out like a sore thumb (While the engine is switche off, parked in a car park - I know it'll be obvious while switched on and driving in the dark!!
Cheers in advance
Phil
Gridlock Mikey 28 March 2003, 11:34 Phil,
When it is initially fitted, it stands out a little because of the white ceramic part of the spark plug and also because the exhaust area tends to be clean where you have wiped it/put finger prints etc on it. After a few miles though, everything gets sooty and unless you know what to look for or that it's there, it's very difficult to see.
People will hear it before seeing it as it makes a buzzing/humming noise when it is on.
Hope that helps
Leg@cy 28 March 2003, 12:39 Cheers Mikey....
How does the sparkplug fairwith the MOT???
Is it the case that you have to remove the plug and put some sort of 'bung in it'?? or doe the kit come with some nice little 'screw on cap'??
Twohot 28 March 2003, 12:59 Just wondered whether this kit will work on an Impreza Sport as I couldnt afford th tubo but te kit looks an absolute treat. :)
Cheers
Ben
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