The Four and the Rotary
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Bearing in mind I'm still prating about with body work I have employed some dark primer in areas to get an idea of possible additional colour areas. Well not colours. Black bits so this is my thinking. Next stop is finish the bonnet and then paint it for the final time.
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Very little time to do anything on this since the last post. I've done a bit more of the body but not a lot. Will try to get back on her in the next few weeks and get the old girl running..... front end ready for paint though....
With the passenger arches all mocked on with skirts:
The we have the front end. Finally all in Primer ready for paint. Skirts are all finished now too but not on in the pics!
I will be adding some carnards/winglets to the front end but i'm but going through a few ideas to make sure it keeps in with the styling so they don't appear just thrown on as such. Nearly there then onto interior and wiring
With the passenger arches all mocked on with skirts:
The we have the front end. Finally all in Primer ready for paint. Skirts are all finished now too but not on in the pics!
I will be adding some carnards/winglets to the front end but i'm but going through a few ideas to make sure it keeps in with the styling so they don't appear just thrown on as such. Nearly there then onto interior and wiring
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Its been a while since I have updated this thread..... The beast is still going though not running yet unfortunately.... Due to a ton of personal stuff since last August I just haven't had a chance to get anything done on the car.... well nothing significant anyway.... I have all the wiring components now so will get on with that soon.... there are a few other things to address first.... first of which was that I nearly fogot what it actually looked like under here
Now while the car has been sitting.... it became very apparent just how much water gets into the air box. Whilst for a race car this, I belive, is still a very good set up. On the road in this country with our weather.... its just not practical.... Air box fills up, there was water in the compressor cover... and not a small amount.... So I will be moving the turbo position. Still across the back of the engine bay but rotated through 180 degrees to face the other way. The air box will now be located in the more conventional position on the drivers side of the engine bay. A couple of advantages to this new position. The airbox isn't over the one biggest heat source, the engine. There is now a lot more room to run two wastegates as opposed to the one big one which offers mild benefits over the one big single one in terms of boost control. The down pipe will now run over the gearbox and down the passenger side of the engine bay. Currently the down pipe comes off the turbo and goes into an immediate tight 180 degree bend to get back down to meet the exhaust. Now the down pipe will come out the turn in a dear straight line for about 24" before dropping down to meet the system vastly improving flow... So that is in the process before I wire the car...
The electric power steering pump is being ditched as that will be going on my GTR so stock pump will go back on. This was originally removed to make way for the intercooler pipe work which is now being rerouted due to new turbo position...
Given this is becoming a more focused car there has also been a wheel change. They are currently a rather vial chrome but they will be going off to be stripped so I can repaint them.... may keep the purple colour I had on the Rotas but I tempted to go with a real bright red instead.... will see how we go They are still 18X10 I would suggest they are an ET20 as the sit a few mill further in the arch than the rotas but not by much... They also need new rubber as they currently have "stretched" tyres on them so some 265's need to be employed to do that job at some stage.... The reason for the change is they are a lot lighter than the Rotas and will still look pretty cool....
Looking forward the STI 6 wing has been ditched for a Carbon wing. Fortunately I had one laying around so that has been used get an eye in for how that will look. This one isn't quite wide enough so I will be changing this out for the wider Aerokit unit once I have the other bots sorted out which I 10" wider overall than the one fitted.... With aero in mind I have fitted a larger splitter. I also got the cardboard out and had a play with potential canard ideas so fibreglass one to follow soon once I decide what way to go...
Mildly annoying:
I also managed to bag a couple of Sparcos which are considerably lighter than the stock seats...
So really its back on it between other jobs to finally get this thing up and running get it on the road and track and have a laugh in it.... Its been 2years since the engine first popped and is long over due....
Now while the car has been sitting.... it became very apparent just how much water gets into the air box. Whilst for a race car this, I belive, is still a very good set up. On the road in this country with our weather.... its just not practical.... Air box fills up, there was water in the compressor cover... and not a small amount.... So I will be moving the turbo position. Still across the back of the engine bay but rotated through 180 degrees to face the other way. The air box will now be located in the more conventional position on the drivers side of the engine bay. A couple of advantages to this new position. The airbox isn't over the one biggest heat source, the engine. There is now a lot more room to run two wastegates as opposed to the one big one which offers mild benefits over the one big single one in terms of boost control. The down pipe will now run over the gearbox and down the passenger side of the engine bay. Currently the down pipe comes off the turbo and goes into an immediate tight 180 degree bend to get back down to meet the exhaust. Now the down pipe will come out the turn in a dear straight line for about 24" before dropping down to meet the system vastly improving flow... So that is in the process before I wire the car...
The electric power steering pump is being ditched as that will be going on my GTR so stock pump will go back on. This was originally removed to make way for the intercooler pipe work which is now being rerouted due to new turbo position...
Given this is becoming a more focused car there has also been a wheel change. They are currently a rather vial chrome but they will be going off to be stripped so I can repaint them.... may keep the purple colour I had on the Rotas but I tempted to go with a real bright red instead.... will see how we go They are still 18X10 I would suggest they are an ET20 as the sit a few mill further in the arch than the rotas but not by much... They also need new rubber as they currently have "stretched" tyres on them so some 265's need to be employed to do that job at some stage.... The reason for the change is they are a lot lighter than the Rotas and will still look pretty cool....
Looking forward the STI 6 wing has been ditched for a Carbon wing. Fortunately I had one laying around so that has been used get an eye in for how that will look. This one isn't quite wide enough so I will be changing this out for the wider Aerokit unit once I have the other bots sorted out which I 10" wider overall than the one fitted.... With aero in mind I have fitted a larger splitter. I also got the cardboard out and had a play with potential canard ideas so fibreglass one to follow soon once I decide what way to go...
Mildly annoying:
I also managed to bag a couple of Sparcos which are considerably lighter than the stock seats...
So really its back on it between other jobs to finally get this thing up and running get it on the road and track and have a laugh in it.... Its been 2years since the engine first popped and is long over due....
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right so not done much on this in recent weeks but I have done a few bits to start thinking about getting the aged old girl back up and running again
I think I mentioned before I wasn't totally happy with the down pipe situation being as tight as it turned out to be so in an effort to aid the issue I dismantled the manifold, ordered a few new bits and turned the turbo through 180 degrees to get a far better exit on the exhaust....
Old manifold chopped ready for trimming and clean up plus a few extra bits. Again all in 321 stainless, there are a couple of 304 bits in there that were from the old MVR single wastegate outlet, these were removed due to the new twin MVS set up.......
New up pipes with the twin MVS units...
and the rest of the revised header on the dumby block in the shed .....
virtually finished up with the gates fitted:
And a test fit just for a pic with the turbo and 76mm to 89mm for the down pipe....
It was also time to give the engine bay a refresh with a lick of paint.... the car was painted white from silver before I bought it and the engine bay was never done so high time it happened.....
Engine out and bay being prepped....
A bit of white followed by a bit of black ...
Then its just a case of getting the whole thing back together..... new pullies are on route also... few other hings will have to change like the header tank location and PS reservoir which I will remake one the ait filter/ air box is in... new PS lines and cooler will need to go in as I will go back to using the stock PS pump and use the electric one for the GTR...
engine, intercooler and rad back in....
lights and bumper re fitted....
Now to make a big long to do list
I think I mentioned before I wasn't totally happy with the down pipe situation being as tight as it turned out to be so in an effort to aid the issue I dismantled the manifold, ordered a few new bits and turned the turbo through 180 degrees to get a far better exit on the exhaust....
Old manifold chopped ready for trimming and clean up plus a few extra bits. Again all in 321 stainless, there are a couple of 304 bits in there that were from the old MVR single wastegate outlet, these were removed due to the new twin MVS set up.......
New up pipes with the twin MVS units...
and the rest of the revised header on the dumby block in the shed .....
virtually finished up with the gates fitted:
And a test fit just for a pic with the turbo and 76mm to 89mm for the down pipe....
It was also time to give the engine bay a refresh with a lick of paint.... the car was painted white from silver before I bought it and the engine bay was never done so high time it happened.....
Engine out and bay being prepped....
A bit of white followed by a bit of black ...
Then its just a case of getting the whole thing back together..... new pullies are on route also... few other hings will have to change like the header tank location and PS reservoir which I will remake one the ait filter/ air box is in... new PS lines and cooler will need to go in as I will go back to using the stock PS pump and use the electric one for the GTR...
engine, intercooler and rad back in....
lights and bumper re fitted....
Now to make a big long to do list
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just read threw this thread was a good read. a lot off effort and work has gone into these projects. really wish I had welding skills lol. will be good to see them both finished.
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Thanks guys, slowly but surely catchy monkey and all that
Yeah they have both been off the road way too long. The 7 especially. Its just sat under a cover for about a year now. Gets a wash ever now and then. The scoob is getting there at last thankfully, shouldn't be too long now.
As for todays agenda, the boot lid.... exciting right? no not really its a boot lid, with holes in it.... and who paints a bootlid with the spoiler still attached!!!
Yeah they have both been off the road way too long. The 7 especially. Its just sat under a cover for about a year now. Gets a wash ever now and then. The scoob is getting there at last thankfully, shouldn't be too long now.
As for todays agenda, the boot lid.... exciting right? no not really its a boot lid, with holes in it.... and who paints a bootlid with the spoiler still attached!!!
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As I mentioned before with the turbo still being located at the rear of the engine bay but now facing the opposite was a new air box was needed. I/m still going to use a B&M cone filter with cold feeds but just inside a box to try and limit heat soak into the filter.
Where the original front mount used to be there is a hole through, and also where I had located the electric PS pump (no longer using) there is also a hole that can be used. Once all that is in I will pull the front bumper off and make a duct from there also leading to the filter box. So with 3 entry points and the B&M its about the best I can do with it.
I thought I had some 4" ally pipe, turned out I didn't so I rolled a short piece just to mount the filter in side; this will protrude the rear of the box where the Titanium pipe will link the box to the compressor cover, so this is where it is so far....
Filter and the 4" ally tube
Then the mock to get the sizing and the Sheet metal tacked. There is a scallop around the filler cap so you can get it on and off without messing about so that still need to be cut and shaped...
Where the original front mount used to be there is a hole through, and also where I had located the electric PS pump (no longer using) there is also a hole that can be used. Once all that is in I will pull the front bumper off and make a duct from there also leading to the filter box. So with 3 entry points and the B&M its about the best I can do with it.
I thought I had some 4" ally pipe, turned out I didn't so I rolled a short piece just to mount the filter in side; this will protrude the rear of the box where the Titanium pipe will link the box to the compressor cover, so this is where it is so far....
Filter and the 4" ally tube
Then the mock to get the sizing and the Sheet metal tacked. There is a scallop around the filler cap so you can get it on and off without messing about so that still need to be cut and shaped...
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I've just read through this whole thread and the work you've done on that car is seriously impressive. That engine bay could quite easily be on a works rally car. On that subject, have you ever considered trying a 'rocket' ALS (as per the rally car)? Looks like you've got the skills to build it.
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I've not had a chance to do anything to the FC.... she gets a clean every now and then. I need to get the scoob done then I can really focus on it.
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Yeah I do keep looking at it and feeling a bit guilty about not getting more done!!!!
bit more scoob process but rain stop play so I couldn't et finished what I wanted too today. So air box is complete for the most part just needs some tidying up. There is one more hole to chop into it but I need to make the front duct first. The connecting pipe from turbo to air box also still needs to be made but I'm waiting on material for that.
I also set about the interior. Well first stages. So carpet and stock seats out along with a few more unnecessary bits. Also knocked out the sound deadening. There is some still to remove in the boot and some more on the bulk head but I will tackle that when I pull the dash out. Test fit of the Sparcos too.
Air box:
Then the interior:
LOADS TO DO!!!!!
bit more scoob process but rain stop play so I couldn't et finished what I wanted too today. So air box is complete for the most part just needs some tidying up. There is one more hole to chop into it but I need to make the front duct first. The connecting pipe from turbo to air box also still needs to be made but I'm waiting on material for that.
I also set about the interior. Well first stages. So carpet and stock seats out along with a few more unnecessary bits. Also knocked out the sound deadening. There is some still to remove in the boot and some more on the bulk head but I will tackle that when I pull the dash out. Test fit of the Sparcos too.
Air box:
Then the interior:
LOADS TO DO!!!!!
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Cheers man, to be honest my ally welding isn't amazing but passible
Minor alteration today as its still friggin' raining.....
I wanted to change the pipe from the compressor to the intercooler. I had no particular issues with it under the inlet manifold but with the stock power steering pump being used going under the there with the PS pipe work makes more sense and there isn't room for both. Another aesthetic reason for changing the IC pipe is that it now runs along the same angles as the air box and also the Air filter pipe once I've made it... and we all like a little symmetry ever now and then
I chopped the old pipe to save a bit of time and effort then cut come more Ti for the new section,
once correct it go the heat applied to it so it matches the other pipe work,
Welded up,
and fitted up
Minor alteration today as its still friggin' raining.....
I wanted to change the pipe from the compressor to the intercooler. I had no particular issues with it under the inlet manifold but with the stock power steering pump being used going under the there with the PS pipe work makes more sense and there isn't room for both. Another aesthetic reason for changing the IC pipe is that it now runs along the same angles as the air box and also the Air filter pipe once I've made it... and we all like a little symmetry ever now and then
I chopped the old pipe to save a bit of time and effort then cut come more Ti for the new section,
once correct it go the heat applied to it so it matches the other pipe work,
Welded up,
and fitted up
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