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Old 10 January 2017, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Torquemada

In the UK in 1989 I was smashed to bits by a chap running me over and the NHS were pretty damned amazing. Fixed me and prevented me becoming a cripple. I was just lucky that one of the worlds best surgeons was in A&E that day.

I wouldn't trust them to fix me up nowadays.
Was that in Nottingham by any chance?
Old 10 January 2017, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Was that in Nottingham by any chance?
It was St Peters hospital in Surrey. Mr Rowan Pool. Very good.
He randomly was assigned to fix a knee injury I had, several years later. Fixed that up a treat, too.
Old 15 January 2017, 12:35 PM
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All over the Manchester Evening news again this weekend.
Salford Royal which is one of the country's "better" hospitals still struggling under an avalanche of patients.

One fella reports his experience to the newspaper of his latest visit.

"A man suffering chest pains was forced to wait seven hours to see a doctor at Salford Royal Hospital - despite having a history of serious heart problems.

In the latest signs of crippling pressures within the NHS, Roy Ellor has told how he spent the majority of that time sitting in a corridor, even though his doctor had warned he needed urgent hospital treatment.

He had heart surgery three months earlier, but when his symptoms came back his GP rang an ambulance."

Its truly shocking to see whats happening and the suffering of people who need help.
Old 04 January 2018, 08:45 PM
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You heard it here first folks.
No ambulances on the road , as they are all parked at the Hospitals waiting to book patients in.
No beds for the patients so the spiral continues.
Shocking situation and god help anyone who falls ill and needs emergency help.
Old 07 January 2018, 07:17 PM
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I don’t think the NHS do themselves any favours tbh.
My dentist said he needed a new hygienic keyboard. NHS website £80. Maplins £8!
He went to maplins and bought it out of his own money.

they waste money *** over fist.

Also I know it’s horrible but how many are still coming from abroad for free treatment. Don’t treat them!

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Old 08 January 2018, 06:14 AM
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Not just that.

I spend four months a time in france. My mate now lives there full time.

BOTH OF US MUST PAY to access the French medical services.

But not here..........
Old 08 January 2018, 09:07 AM
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Spend that much time abroad and youll be struck off your uk doc list !
Old 08 January 2018, 12:22 PM
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6 months matey.

And mine isn't continuous. My doc is aware. Meanwhile my mate and his wife come home once a year for chackups etc. THEY are fine too.

And why not? We've both payed into the system for YEARS.
Old 08 January 2018, 01:42 PM
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So if youre a tourist why cant you claim ehic card ?

And how do you know these eu arent paying at home....
Old 08 January 2018, 04:00 PM
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1. You can...but only what you would get in the UK.

2. First hand from medical professionals.

Any other questions?
Old 08 January 2018, 07:41 PM
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Why shouldn't any EU pay , beyond scope of ehic


2. First hand from medical professionals.



so 2nd hand to us

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Old 08 January 2018, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RobsyUK
I don’t think the NHS do themselves any favours tbh.
My dentist said he needed a new hygienic keyboard. NHS website £80. Maplins £8!
He went to maplins and bought it out of his own money.

they waste money *** over fist.

Also I know it’s horrible but how many are still coming from abroad for free treatment. Don’t treat them!
Yep heard of this many a time.
Purchasers spending our money like its confetti.
No regard for cost.
Maybe just how good their free lunch was.. Ahem....!
Old 09 January 2018, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Why shouldn't any EU pay , beyond scope of ehic
Exactly...yet many pay NOTHING here, because we UK citizens don't.


Originally Posted by dpb
2. First hand from medical professionals.



so 2nd hand to us
What's your point? Other than the usual a-hole nonsense/immigrant @rse licking/windup?
Old 09 January 2018, 05:38 AM
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Some kind actual proof
Old 09 January 2018, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by njkmrs
Yep heard of this many a time.
Purchasers spending our money like its confetti.
No regard for cost.
Maybe just how good their free lunch was.. Ahem....!
I was working in hospitals a few years ago and a lady was explaining to me and another guy the use and results of a CT Scan. She was pointing things out (she was looking for cancer) on the scan, then told us the two screens cost something like £4k each. Said something about them being HD etc. and the picture quality was pin sharp so she could pick up on things.

The screen was exactly the same screen that you buy yourself for about £3-400 at the time and was nothing special at all, the only reason it cost so much was due to insurance underwriting, such that if a diagnosis was missed and the finger of blame started to wonder around, the Dr/Consultant etc could say they missed it because it never showed up on the screen.

Probably the same for lots of other equipment used in the health care sector?
Old 09 January 2018, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Some kind actual proof
Nope.
if the words of those working in the profession aren't good enough, even those in admin, you deserve to stay stupid.
Old 09 January 2018, 06:42 PM
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Just read a great book about the life of a junior doctor 'this is going to hurt'. Recommended

Very funny and sad and gives you a bit of an insight though I'm sure with some artistic licence
Old 09 January 2018, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ^Qwerty^
I was working in hospitals a few years ago and a lady was explaining to me and another guy the use and results of a CT Scan. She was pointing things out (she was looking for cancer) on the scan, then told us the two screens cost something like £4k each. Said something about them being HD etc. and the picture quality was pin sharp so she could pick up on things.

The screen was exactly the same screen that you buy yourself for about £3-400 at the time and was nothing special at all, the only reason it cost so much was due to insurance underwriting, such that if a diagnosis was missed and the finger of blame started to wonder around, the Dr/Consultant etc could say they missed it because it never showed up on the screen.

Probably the same for lots of other equipment used in the health care sector?
I am sure that does come into it ,but NHS paying say £10 for a packet of Paracetamol that we can buy for a quid in supermarket is pure wanton waste of our money and the people responsible for this waste need stringing up.
They have helped to bring it to its knees.
Old 10 January 2018, 01:02 PM
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The above points re: waste are valid, but, unfortunately, happen in ALL large organisations.

I could cite you examples on the local steelworks, and, when education budgets were devolved to schools, headteachers could, and did, save £thousands by shopping around.

I could also tell you of the dishonest people trousering money by making deals with suppliers to pay over the odds.....
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Originally Posted by alcazar
The above points re: waste are valid, but, unfortunately, happen in ALL large organisations.

I could cite you examples on the local steelworks, and, when education budgets were devolved to schools, headteachers could, and did, save £thousands by shopping around.

I could also tell you of the dishonest people trousering money by making deals with suppliers to pay over the odds.....
I hear you ...
And fully agree
The greed of some and the lack of effort in others is stomach churning to be honest
Old 15 January 2018, 10:21 AM
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The Hospitals are too busy to see you because of cuts etc so you and or you carer are plied with free meals whilst you wait. Erm...




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