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Old 26 October 2016, 01:08 PM
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Yeah i'm afraid i agree, think 1-0 to city. I hope i'm wrong, think Rashford needs to be up front.
Old 26 October 2016, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jaygsi
Yeah i'm afraid i agree, think 1-0 to city. I hope i'm wrong, think Rashford needs to be up front.
So glad your wrong Jaygsi....!
Not the best performance but a good result.
Have to say Im sick of seeing Mata taken off as though its some sort of power thing with Moureen.....
He has played probably the best out of the lot of them this season.
Man u v West Ham next
Old 26 October 2016, 10:43 PM
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Mata has played well this year, although he had some horrendous square passes tonight
that would have been crucified against a full strength Citeeh team

The player I see the most improvement in is Herrera, he's really putting himself about, lets hope he develops and really makes the midfield his (Keano in the making ?)
Zlatan had a few good touches and worked hard
Pogba needs to learn how to control the ball with his first touch, poor 1st half, slightly better 2nd, still not dominating as he should of against those young players
Valencia another great display
Carrick adds so much and great to see Schneiderlin getting a run out
Rashford didn't set the world on fire, maybe a bit weary?
Shaw's just not 100% fit, but he's getting there

don't like Lingard, Blind, Depay, Jones, Martial, Darmian just not good enough for UTD
Old 27 October 2016, 12:47 AM
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Carrick proved yet again he is our best player, no doubt he'll be sidelined for Fellani to come back in for the Burnley game......
Old 27 October 2016, 09:50 AM
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one of Zlatan's worst games. he needs a goal badly.
Old 27 October 2016, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by elgassi
Mata has played well this year, although he had some horrendous square passes tonight
that would have been crucified against a full strength Citeeh team

The player I see the most improvement in is Herrera, he's really putting himself about, lets hope he develops and really makes the midfield his (Keano in the making ?)
Zlatan had a few good touches and worked hard
Pogba needs to learn how to control the ball with his first touch, poor 1st half, slightly better 2nd, still not dominating as he should of against those young players
Valencia another great display
Carrick adds so much and great to see Schneiderlin getting a run out
Rashford didn't set the world on fire, maybe a bit weary?
Shaw's just not 100% fit, but he's getting there

don't like Lingard, Blind, Depay, Jones, Martial, Darmian just not good enough for UTD
Yep some good points there.
I agree on Herrera , he is showing a gritty side to his game. No nonsense getting stuck in , something we have been lacking of late.
Old 27 October 2016, 12:31 PM
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edit post #123
Fellani - has to GO

how did I forget him, mind you it's so easy to forget about him ;-)
Old 27 October 2016, 01:44 PM
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I just don't get Fellani as a football player. He just runs about like a headless chicken and doesn't really offer anything apart from trailing elbows.
Old 28 October 2016, 02:19 PM
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I'm so glad i was wrong aswell. Want to see some wins now.


Originally Posted by njkmrs
So glad your wrong Jaygsi....!
Not the best performance but a good result.
Have to say Im sick of seeing Mata taken off as though its some sort of power thing with Moureen.....
He has played probably the best out of the lot of them this season.
Man u v West Ham next
Old 28 October 2016, 06:26 PM
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Yeh Burnley tomorrow...
They have tripped us up before....
We'll see...
Old 30 October 2016, 12:38 AM
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37 goals on target

Can't believe nothing went in, there keeper did well though.
Old 30 October 2016, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by jaygsi
37 goals on target

Can't believe nothing went in, there keeper did well though.
Most since records began apparently, on MOTD. When things aren't going your way . . . Herrera was really unlucky to be sent off. The pen was a 50/50 call. But our finishing was below par for some of the chances, but there were some top saves. The volley from Zlatan and the subsequent save was epic. BUT 2 points dropped. We cannot afford to do this and expect to win things. That should have been 4-0.
Old 30 October 2016, 10:58 AM
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Ibrahimovic's misses are costing Utd results. Utd need a world class striker right now IMO.
Old 30 October 2016, 10:55 PM
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yep it looks like another season where it aint happening...
Old 31 October 2016, 01:12 AM
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we need YOUTH and ENERGY, a couple of young top class strikers, another quality midfield player and a leader at the back
we need to build for the future, not for tomorrow

It's always been a thing that's annoyed me, we were dominant for so many years, we should have had a conveyor belt of Top young players coming through our youth system instead of being in the position of having to go out and fire fight by taking has been's (bastian, Ibra) don't get me wrong they still have something to offer, but they'll never win us anything and there's no future in this age of player

as daft as it may be I'd rather have bought a Vardy, Benteke or the likes at least you'd get a bit of movement and a few years out of them
I'm not knocking Ibra or Bastian here, it's just seems a step backwards and doesn't send out the right kind of message when you go for players of their age IMO
Old 31 October 2016, 09:57 AM
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was at the game. our movement, passing, direction, intensity was spot on...
clattenburg had a shocker
best ive seen United play all season, bar the finishing, even that said Heaton was immense in goal, was right behind the goal second half (Stretford end)
can't understand why people are slating Mourinho and the team, on any other day that would have been 5/6-0
only bad part of the game was Fellaini/Rooney/Depay who came on and showed why theyre not upto the grade .
Old 31 October 2016, 11:31 AM
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United did have a line of new players come in, like Pogba but then sold him and bought him back few years later.

Hence they have loaned a load of players out instead of selling them now. But yeah i don't think Pogba was the answer, i would have bought Vardy who's got a fair few years in him, and a few youngsters, I would have bought Greisman if going to spend any big money.

Originally Posted by elgassi
It's always been a thing that's annoyed me, we were dominant for so many years, we should have had a conveyor belt of Top young players coming through our youth system instead of being in the position of having to go out and fire fight by taking has been's (bastian, Ibra) don't get me wrong they still have something to offer, but they'll never win us anything and there's no future in this age of player

as daft as it may be I'd rather have bought a Vardy, Benteke or the likes at least you'd get a bit of movement and a few years out of them
I'm not knocking Ibra or Bastian here, it's just seems a step backwards and doesn't send out the right kind of message when you go for players of their age IMO
Old 31 October 2016, 07:06 PM
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Bastian is back training with the first team
6 or 7 years ago I'd have bust the bank for him, fantastic player - not so good now though

Carrick, Rooney, Bastian, Fellaini & Ibra we'll be like greased lightning going forward ...errr sideways
Old 01 November 2016, 12:51 PM
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Yeah Zlatan's goal save was mega, goal keeper hurt his arm he kicked it that hard.



Originally Posted by sprigeteer
Most since records began apparently, on MOTD. When things aren't going your way . . . Herrera was really unlucky to be sent off. The pen was a 50/50 call. But our finishing was below par for some of the chances, but there were some top saves. The volley from Zlatan and the subsequent save was epic. BUT 2 points dropped. We cannot afford to do this and expect to win things. That should have been 4-0.
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Originally Posted by jaygsi
Yeah Zlatan's goal save was mega, goal keeper hurt his arm he kicked it that hard.
And even when he saved it I noticed another 4 Burnley players behind him on the line

United should have appealed Herrera's Red, he slipped and both feet were on the ground, not a foul in my book.

Already bored of the Jose show, exactly as we expected/predicted it's all about him and not United.
Old 01 November 2016, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Funkii Munkii
And even when he saved it I noticed another 4 Burnley players behind him on the line

United should have appealed Herrera's Red, he slipped and both feet were on the ground, not a foul in my book.

Already bored of the Jose show, exactly as we expected/predicted it's all about him and not United.
Did you hear the caller into 606 a few weeks ago, who said JM was a massive mistake

Really argued his case well, polite, informed and persuasive

He was ridiculed by the presenter and Chris Sutton, they where both rude and condescending, but I thought he made some great points

And I suspect they will be eating their words by mid Feb
Old 02 November 2016, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Funkii Munkii
United should have appealed Herrera's Red, he slipped and both feet were on the ground, not a foul in my book.
im 99% sure you can't appeal 2 yellows :/
Old 02 November 2016, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Ash Webster
im 99% sure you can't appeal 2 yellows :/
You have a point
Old 02 November 2016, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Did you hear the caller into 606 a few weeks ago, who said JM was a massive mistake

Really argued his case well, polite, informed and persuasive

He was ridiculed by the presenter and Chris Sutton, they where both rude and condescending, but I thought he made some great points

And I suspect they will be eating their words by mid Feb
I didn't but can imagine what he said, many older United fans like myself that remember from Tommy Doc onwards all had their misgivings about his appointment and what it could do to the club from the off.

The only United manager I can remember where I didn't have once ounce of excitement at his appointment.

He needs to just shut his mouth get his head down and get on with it, stop looking backwards and try to look forwards, if his ego allows.....
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I thought Diego Simeone would have been a better choice

I reckon Klopp would have loved Man U and brought us trophies and loads of smiles
Old 03 November 2016, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by elgassi

I reckon Klopp would have loved Man U and brought us trophies and loads of smiles
Without a doubt and he's more of a decent human being than Maureen ever could be.

All said and done we have to stick with him and hope it clicks eventually as it did under Fergie in the early years, at least in the main we are playing better football.
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Originally Posted by Funkii Munkii
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He needs to just shut his mouth get his head down and get on with it, stop looking backwards and try to look forwards, if his ego allows.....
indeed, but you get the impression with JM, that its all about him

always
Old 03 November 2016, 11:19 PM
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problems, problems we are bimbling along the same as we did with Moyes and LVG. nothing seems to be changing
We need a massive shake up, we need to get out of Europe (MUexit) and concentrate on the EPL and getting our game together
someone - JM needs to get this sorted, 'a clean broom' start building for the future, get a plan, stop firefighting and Build our Empire again or F()ck off to your next 12 million a year job
I couldn't even be bothered watching tonight and I've supported us for half a century through the Bad, Terrible, good and sublime times - c'mon lets get this sorted

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Yet another miserable result....
I wish I had the answer....
Better still I wish JM had an answer ....!
Old 04 November 2016, 09:34 AM
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this day 30 years ago................AF arrived

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