Euro 2016
11 July 2016, 12:34 AM
#212
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Which is exactly what I said!
The 3rd place spot has done nothing but bring defensive football instead of teams needing to go ***** out for the win for a chance to qualify....Possibly the worse tournament of any kind in terms of quality for a long time.
Have the Welsh finished celebrating winning **** all yet?
The 3rd place spot has done nothing but bring defensive football instead of teams needing to go ***** out for the win for a chance to qualify....Possibly the worse tournament of any kind in terms of quality for a long time.
Have the Welsh finished celebrating winning **** all yet?
11 July 2016, 12:51 AM
#213
It was the ONLY team that didn't loose a single match! 
It was probably one the unluckiest teams during the group stage, many ***** that didn't hit the goal by a few cm and the referees never gave a single penalty, and there where 4 clear penalties that the referees "didn't see".
When everybody was expecting that Portugal played for Ronaldo... they were a group and it was the union of the group that won it!
European champions!! Yeah!
It was probably one the unluckiest teams during the group stage, many ***** that didn't hit the goal by a few cm and the referees never gave a single penalty, and there where 4 clear penalties that the referees "didn't see".
When everybody was expecting that Portugal played for Ronaldo... they were a group and it was the union of the group that won it!
European champions!! Yeah!
11 July 2016, 08:19 AM
#215
It shows how badly organised England were, I hate to say it but seeing how poor the other teams performed
that squad of England's minus one or 2 who shouldn't have been picked could have Won that tournament
that squad of England's minus one or 2 who shouldn't have been picked could have Won that tournament
11 July 2016, 11:57 AM
#219
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it's going to be a shocker being in Russia as the violence will be worse than ever going on Russia's attitude to the events in France of their own 'supporters'.
11 July 2016, 03:43 PM
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18 July 2016, 11:17 AM
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18 July 2016, 06:36 PM
#225
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Picking an English manager is a joke wtf have they ever won? It should be who is most qualified for the job not where they are from ffs. Won't get anywhere with an English manager in charge might as well have left Hodgson in charge!
18 July 2016, 07:15 PM
#226
What he done with Sunderland last season is nothing short of a miracle and lets not forget getting West Ham back into the EPL in his first year as manager. He also had a good spell at Blackburn before the Venky Chicken people thought he was an old dinosaur and sacked him after a few bad results only to install Steve Kean which didn't work out as they intended, they were relegated!
Looking at the 6 people who have been touted as the best manger I truly believe he is the best man for the job.
Hoddle - He had his go and has been out the game too long.
Wenger - Nah no thanks, pretty football with no really end result.
Klinsmann - He's German!!!
Bruce - Just a poor mans Allardyce
Howe - No chance, we don't want him leaving B'mth just yet although a good 2016-2017 season and I don't think any B'mth fan would stand in the way of him getting a top job.
Give Sam ago, he won't do any worse than Owl face..!
18 July 2016, 09:40 PM
#227
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OK my argument is there are foreign managers about who are more qualified such as Guus Hiddink. He has far more experience in club and international football than any English manager.
Why is Sam Allardyce a better choice than Guus Hiddink other than he is English? Compare careers and there is only one winner yet it seems the FA and British media aren't interested in CVs only where someone was born
Why is Sam Allardyce a better choice than Guus Hiddink other than he is English? Compare careers and there is only one winner yet it seems the FA and British media aren't interested in CVs only where someone was born
18 July 2016, 10:23 PM
#228
OK my argument is there are foreign managers about who are more qualified such as Guus Hiddink. He has far more experience in club and international football than any English manager.
Why is Sam Allardyce a better choice than Guus Hiddink other than he is English? Compare careers and there is only one winner yet it seems the FA and British media aren't interested in CVs only where someone was born
Why is Sam Allardyce a better choice than Guus Hiddink other than he is English? Compare careers and there is only one winner yet it seems the FA and British media aren't interested in CVs only where someone was born
As for Hiddink, although Sam has no international experience Hiddinks success at international level is nothing to write home about...
18 July 2016, 11:18 PM
#229
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He took South Korea from nothing to the last 4 of the World Cup which is more than any English manager has done since. As for passion I never saw that in Hodgson! Venables was the best English manager I have seen in my time, someone the players would fear if they fcuked up and that bred respect. The rest have been far too soft with Hodgson being the worst.
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19 July 2016, 11:09 AM
#231
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I don't agree with the Englishman being passionate statement, the last English manager I can remember being passionate was Keegan and he was bloody useless. Wally with the brolly no passion, Woy no passion
I don't care where they come from as long as they can pick a squad of English footballers to play as a "team" to work for each other and understand what each other are doing on the pitch and where they will be. They don't have to play for the big 4 they don't have to be on 300K a week they need to be able to play as a team.
England should be a privilege, play for free, bin the beats headphones, mobiles, man bags and the pampered lifestyle, you're there to do a job for your country you can go back to the luxury lifestyle after the game.
If the players cant handle this then you wont be picked to represent your country, the players we have are too soft as have been the management and the entire FA set up.
I'd take Hiddink in an instant
I don't care where they come from as long as they can pick a squad of English footballers to play as a "team" to work for each other and understand what each other are doing on the pitch and where they will be. They don't have to play for the big 4 they don't have to be on 300K a week they need to be able to play as a team.
England should be a privilege, play for free, bin the beats headphones, mobiles, man bags and the pampered lifestyle, you're there to do a job for your country you can go back to the luxury lifestyle after the game.
If the players cant handle this then you wont be picked to represent your country, the players we have are too soft as have been the management and the entire FA set up.
I'd take Hiddink in an instant
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19 July 2016, 11:53 AM
#232
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I agree. Players should be paid nothing to play for England. Managers too. Expenses paid but thats it (not like they cant afford it anyway). That way we get players who want to be there.
19 July 2016, 07:03 PM
#233
I don't agree with the Englishman being passionate statement, the last English manager I can remember being passionate was Keegan and he was bloody useless. Wally with the brolly no passion, Woy no passion
I don't care where they come from as long as they can pick a squad of English footballers to play as a "team" to work for each other and understand what each other are doing on the pitch and where they will be. They don't have to play for the big 4 they don't have to be on 300K a week they need to be able to play as a team.
England should be a privilege, play for free, bin the beats headphones, mobiles, man bags and the pampered lifestyle, you're there to do a job for your country you can go back to the luxury lifestyle after the game.
If the players cant handle this then you wont be picked to represent your country, the players we have are too soft as have been the management and the entire FA set up.
I'd take Hiddink in an instant
I don't care where they come from as long as they can pick a squad of English footballers to play as a "team" to work for each other and understand what each other are doing on the pitch and where they will be. They don't have to play for the big 4 they don't have to be on 300K a week they need to be able to play as a team.
England should be a privilege, play for free, bin the beats headphones, mobiles, man bags and the pampered lifestyle, you're there to do a job for your country you can go back to the luxury lifestyle after the game.
If the players cant handle this then you wont be picked to represent your country, the players we have are too soft as have been the management and the entire FA set up.
I'd take Hiddink in an instant
19 July 2016, 08:38 PM
#234
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But its utterly irrelevant if they haven't got the skill/experience/tactical expertise and as shown none of the English managers so far have been any good since Venables and that will just continue.
19 July 2016, 09:16 PM
#235
I really don't want to see another foreign manager, I'd rather carry on in the world of mediocrity than install a foreign mercenary looking to pocket £4million a year then disappear into retirement counting his money whilst not really giving a $hit.
19 July 2016, 10:08 PM
#236
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It's a very strange attitude to have. You'd rather see Sam Allardyce in charge who has never won anything, has never managed at international level and hasn't even managed a top club and pretty much got booted out of West Ham as he wasn't good enough only for Slaven Bilic to come in and do a great job. Yet there is someone like Hiddink available who has far more experience at all levels and far more success yet because he isn't English he shouldn't get the job. That is total madness in my opinion.
It should be about the best manager who can get the best out of the group of players he has to choose from and do the best in tournaments not where they were born and disregarding their lack of experience.
As for Klinsmann he was one of the World's best players in his time and done everything and won everything so of course he was worth a punt at management and it paid off. 'Big Sam' does not have those credentials.
It should be about the best manager who can get the best out of the group of players he has to choose from and do the best in tournaments not where they were born and disregarding their lack of experience.
As for Klinsmann he was one of the World's best players in his time and done everything and won everything so of course he was worth a punt at management and it paid off. 'Big Sam' does not have those credentials.
20 July 2016, 06:28 PM
#240
Not with a manager who won't be afraid to pick players on form and not reputation, not with a manager who has built a career on getting the best out of average players, not with manager who's Bolton side was a regular top 10 side and built on a shoe string or a manager who laid the foundation for the current West Ham team....No words needed for what he done for Sunderland!
He has proved time and time again he can get players to perform, its not luck it's proof he is a highly motivated expert in man-management.
We will have to agree to disagree because I think it's what the national side need, an Englishman who is not scared to make big decisions.
He has proved time and time again he can get players to perform, its not luck it's proof he is a highly motivated expert in man-management.
We will have to agree to disagree because I think it's what the national side need, an Englishman who is not scared to make big decisions.