Top Gear?! No thread about tonight's show?
30 May 2016, 12:21 AM
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Sure Clarkson, Hammond and May are a great combo, but you can't say the same back when they started out on the very first episode, the chemistry they now have between them took years to develop. It was inevitable comparisons would be drawn between the trio and the new presenters, but it's ridiculous to expect the same chemistry between the new presenters like the previous trio. What I find even more ridiculous are the usual haters of the previous Topgear now defending them. 
30 May 2016, 12:32 AM
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Anyway, this isn't about comparing old to new. Even if you totally forget that Clarkson, Hammond and May ever existed, this was still a VERY poor show. Evans Couldent stop shouting, LeBlanc's 'jokes' were cringeworthy and his presenting skills are more wooden than the Mary Celeste. Their on-screen relationship is quite obviously forced and they look totally un-natural together (in a bad way).......I could go on and on.
Oh, and they've got the best bloke there, Chris Harris, on the after show. I couldent be arsed to watch it. I couldent be arsed to sit there at home, anti-socially on my iPad and watch it. Having your family gathered around an iPad / laptop etc isn't exactly my idea of fun.
I think the BBC have really ****ed this one up. Still, it's not as if it's our money they're wasting on it
30 May 2016, 08:27 AM
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I think the naysayers are argueing from having too high expectations
I only caught the last 15 mins as I was finishing a bout of decorating, so was actually watching paint dry
Seemed a little too like the old one from what I saw, but I am sure it will get better
Apparently they did more in depth reviews on cars
I only caught the last 15 mins as I was finishing a bout of decorating, so was actually watching paint dry
Seemed a little too like the old one from what I saw, but I am sure it will get better
Apparently they did more in depth reviews on cars
30 May 2016, 09:08 AM
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They are just doing the same show with different people. Chris Evans came across as a total *** playing up the camera waiting for people to laugh at his terrible jokes....
Matt actually seems pretty good to be honest and once he gets used to the English sense of humour might be pretty good.
Fair play to sabine making the jet pilot sick!
Matt actually seems pretty good to be honest and once he gets used to the English sense of humour might be pretty good.
Fair play to sabine making the jet pilot sick!
30 May 2016, 07:09 PM
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So, they tore up a hill in the countryside in cars, and made a slur by referring to Sabine Schmitz as "The Kaiser". In the old days, the complaints phone would be ringing itself off the wall. Clearly, less people are out to be offended this time - or it was that bad that those bits got overlooked.
31 May 2016, 02:09 PM
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Very much geared to the American market with the presenters & cars they 'tested'.
All based on a UK v USA senario with the silly competitions & as in the guests who have absolutely nothing in common except one is a Brit & one is a Yank.
Very much an entertainment show now & not much for a serious petrol head but I guess that's where the money is................................................ .................................................. ..............................
unless your a gobby,loud-mouth chef!!
All based on a UK v USA senario with the silly competitions & as in the guests who have absolutely nothing in common except one is a Brit & one is a Yank.
Very much an entertainment show now & not much for a serious petrol head but I guess that's where the money is................................................ .................................................. ..............................
unless your a gobby,loud-mouth chef!!
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31 May 2016, 08:21 PM
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Very much geared to the American market with the presenters & cars they 'tested'.
All based on a UK v USA senario with the silly competitions & as in the guests who have absolutely nothing in common except one is a Brit & one is a Yank.
Very much an entertainment show now & not much for a serious petrol head but I guess that's where the money is................................................ .................................................. ..............................
unless your a gobby,loud-mouth chef!!
All based on a UK v USA senario with the silly competitions & as in the guests who have absolutely nothing in common except one is a Brit & one is a Yank.
Very much an entertainment show now & not much for a serious petrol head but I guess that's where the money is................................................ .................................................. ..............................
unless your a gobby,loud-mouth chef!!
31 May 2016, 10:02 PM
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I'm car daft so I'll probably continue to watch it no matter how bad it gets. The visuals are, after all, generally brilliant.
However, it was clear that for at least a few years the TG format and dicking around was beginning to wear thin. Many people had already turned off and been alienated by the show but those that remained (such as myself) were there purely for the entertainment of Clarkson, Hammond and May (CHM) dicking around. The onscreen relationship and culture that had developed between those three was worth tuning in for.
The new show tried (and failed miserably) to retain that old format and to replicate the 'banter' and relationships. Without CHM the features stood out very clearly for what they are....bloody stupid and completely pointless. The missile lock thing and evading the paps was uninformative, boring, childish and pointless. What the producers seem to have completely missed is the ONLY reason we tolerated that sort of content was CHM.
You know, this whole thing reminds me of that guy (mate) that nearly everyone has. You know the guy, the one that pushes the line and maybe cracks jokes (often about other group members wives/gfs) that are a bit close to the bone. The sort of stuff you probably should take offense to but you don't cause you've known this guy for years and built the relationship. So he gets away with it; it's like an unwritten rule. Then one day another mate thinks he can banter in the same way and wades in and you just want to punch him in the face. That is what new TG is like; it's trying to be a mate that's a bit of a **** and get away with it. Trouble is, it hasn't earned the right. If you watch early CHM TG stuff it was much tamer and more informative; they built up to full scale cocking around quite progressively.
However, it was clear that for at least a few years the TG format and dicking around was beginning to wear thin. Many people had already turned off and been alienated by the show but those that remained (such as myself) were there purely for the entertainment of Clarkson, Hammond and May (CHM) dicking around. The onscreen relationship and culture that had developed between those three was worth tuning in for.
The new show tried (and failed miserably) to retain that old format and to replicate the 'banter' and relationships. Without CHM the features stood out very clearly for what they are....bloody stupid and completely pointless. The missile lock thing and evading the paps was uninformative, boring, childish and pointless. What the producers seem to have completely missed is the ONLY reason we tolerated that sort of content was CHM.
You know, this whole thing reminds me of that guy (mate) that nearly everyone has. You know the guy, the one that pushes the line and maybe cracks jokes (often about other group members wives/gfs) that are a bit close to the bone. The sort of stuff you probably should take offense to but you don't cause you've known this guy for years and built the relationship. So he gets away with it; it's like an unwritten rule. Then one day another mate thinks he can banter in the same way and wades in and you just want to punch him in the face. That is what new TG is like; it's trying to be a mate that's a bit of a **** and get away with it. Trouble is, it hasn't earned the right. If you watch early CHM TG stuff it was much tamer and more informative; they built up to full scale cocking around quite progressively.
31 May 2016, 10:07 PM
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For a lot of people Top Gear was just about the only thing worth paying the TV license for as well. It's about time that was scrapped and they went to a subscription based model.
31 May 2016, 11:53 PM
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I'm car daft so I'll probably continue to watch it no matter how bad it gets. The visuals are, after all, generally brilliant.
However, it was clear that for at least a few years the TG format and dicking around was beginning to wear thin. Many people had already turned off and been alienated by the show but those that remained (such as myself) were there purely for the entertainment of Clarkson, Hammond and May (CHM) dicking around. The onscreen relationship and culture that had developed between those three was worth tuning in for.
The new show tried (and failed miserably) to retain that old format and to replicate the 'banter' and relationships. Without CHM the features stood out very clearly for what they are....bloody stupid and completely pointless. The missile lock thing and evading the paps was uninformative, boring, childish and pointless. What the producers seem to have completely missed is the ONLY reason we tolerated that sort of content was CHM.
You know, this whole thing reminds me of that guy (mate) that nearly everyone has. You know the guy, the one that pushes the line and maybe cracks jokes (often about other group members wives/gfs) that are a bit close to the bone. The sort of stuff you probably should take offense to but you don't cause you've known this guy for years and built the relationship. So he gets away with it; it's like an unwritten rule. Then one day another mate thinks he can banter in the same way and wades in and you just want to punch him in the face. That is what new TG is like; it's trying to be a mate that's a bit of a **** and get away with it. Trouble is, it hasn't earned the right. If you watch early CHM TG stuff it was much tamer and more informative; they built up to full scale cocking around quite progressively.
However, it was clear that for at least a few years the TG format and dicking around was beginning to wear thin. Many people had already turned off and been alienated by the show but those that remained (such as myself) were there purely for the entertainment of Clarkson, Hammond and May (CHM) dicking around. The onscreen relationship and culture that had developed between those three was worth tuning in for.
The new show tried (and failed miserably) to retain that old format and to replicate the 'banter' and relationships. Without CHM the features stood out very clearly for what they are....bloody stupid and completely pointless. The missile lock thing and evading the paps was uninformative, boring, childish and pointless. What the producers seem to have completely missed is the ONLY reason we tolerated that sort of content was CHM.
You know, this whole thing reminds me of that guy (mate) that nearly everyone has. You know the guy, the one that pushes the line and maybe cracks jokes (often about other group members wives/gfs) that are a bit close to the bone. The sort of stuff you probably should take offense to but you don't cause you've known this guy for years and built the relationship. So he gets away with it; it's like an unwritten rule. Then one day another mate thinks he can banter in the same way and wades in and you just want to punch him in the face. That is what new TG is like; it's trying to be a mate that's a bit of a **** and get away with it. Trouble is, it hasn't earned the right. If you watch early CHM TG stuff it was much tamer and more informative; they built up to full scale cocking around quite progressively.
01 June 2016, 10:12 AM
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I don't think Evans is the right choice, but I thought LeBlanc was ok, and will probably improve as he gets more in to the role.
I do think that Evans is going to fix everything so he wins, like Clarkson. I do not believe he would have outdriven Sabine, and he cheated to win the other challenge. All a bit familiar!
I'll keep watching though, see how the other presenters fare.
I do think that Evans is going to fix everything so he wins, like Clarkson. I do not believe he would have outdriven Sabine, and he cheated to win the other challenge. All a bit familiar!
I'll keep watching though, see how the other presenters fare.
05 June 2016, 10:46 PM
#56
Actually enjoyed it....
