The Pink Ninja

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There was 5 GTR's that ran in the 9's at TOTB, that's some straight line performance but like I said earlier they just didn't perform on the handling circuit apart from 1 who won outright anyway with his 1500bhp+

IainMilford

iTrader: (15)

Ha well that would be nice but I'm not so sure, there is definitely a 10 in my car on that lumpy old runway I'm just yet to find it yet, Martyn will be in the 9's though so the gap will remain the same. Having said this I'm not that fussed about the drag strip and my car is focused for the track, drag racing is fun and I'm just pleased to see what it can do, rather than go all out making lots of little changes chasing that last 1/10th of a second.

RAGGY DOO

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gtrs are the kiddys son

Alan Jeffery

No doubt at all, they are a tremendous car, I've enjoyed driving them but I'm happy to hand them back. They were heavily subsidised by Nissan, as you'll soon see if you have to buy any parts!
Bang for buck, a Scooby takes some beating.

south_scoob

If you play forza (known for realistic handling models) you will know gtrs are understeering pigs!

Great drag cars but nothing compared to lightweight mid engine thorough breeds like Ferraris and McLaren's

R35's look like crap too imo

neil-h

MartynJ

Fortunately for every sausage sandwich I eat something else falls off the car

IainMilford

iTrader: (15)

Whether it is meant to or not

south_scoob

No amount of Tec or development can hide over half a TON of weight compared to a classic sti. To regain the power to weight would cost nowhere near as much as a new gtr. And they are the bugeye of the skyline series so I would never buy one

neil-h

Yeah I was laughing at the use of Forza as a reason. Accurate handling models or not it's still only a game.

As for the comparison against the classic, the biggest place you'd notice the difference is under braking. Anywhere else I doubt there'd be much in it.

The Pink Ninja

iTrader: (23)

the gtr has epic stopping capabilities with decent pads in...speaking from experience

neil-h

I'm sure it does but you're still ultimately putting a lot of energy into the brakes and that's got to go somewhere.

gary77

iTrader: (1)

As far as jap cars go , the gtr is the top , the only contender would be the Honda nsx

Peedee

iTrader: (4)

That lambo seems to make a lot of noise but doesn't go particularly fast? Or is it just that the GTR makes it look slow?

stonejedi

iTrader: (51)

Top cars,but all so Top money,service and parts alone and forbid something goes seriously wrong,I don't think that selling the house is a viable option,Subaru's are in the middle ground which is perfect for your normal working mans budget,but if you can afford GTR running cost and maintenance then why not,to be honest its never been an itch that I have felt the need to scratch.SJ.

RAGGY DOO

iTrader: (1)

cant afford a gtr the scoob will have to do

south_scoob

And Agility (change off direction) Aswel. Tracks like the nurburgring and top gear test track obviously favour a gtr on more complex tracks my money would be on the modded classics.

south_scoob

Nsx lol why because senna tuned the handling? A uk spec supra out of the box would embarrass a nsx
not to mention they can take 900hp on stock internals were as the nsx has little to no tune ability.

gary77

iTrader: (1)

I've no real knowledge of the nsx spec but I've always seen it as a jap supercar , surprised to hear it's not better than a supra , I'd have to look into that ,

Here are some reasons to consider
The NSX does have a higher top speed.
The NSX is lighter and more aerodynamic.
The NSX is more luxurious.
The NSX has better handling.
The NSX is more reliable.
The NSX is more comfortable and has a quieter ride.
The NSX has a better resale value.
The NSX looks much better.

neil-h

I'm not convinced it is to be honest, certainly not embarassingly so anyways. Yeah the stock Supra has a bit more power (50bhp ish) but it's also a good 1-200kg heavier.

gary77

iTrader: (1)

My last reply is in relation to the supra , the old nsx doesn't seem to be a match for the gtr , the new nsx possably is though

gary77

iTrader: (1)

Had time to watch a few video and as I suspected it's nonsencse to claim a supra would embarrass the nsx like was suggested .

I've no idea why it's mentioned the nsx can't be tuned , just seen a 1000bhp one , seems enough to me

south_scoob

Supras are already set up for forced induction. Some big power ones uses a single big turbo. These cars even with rear wheels so wide a tyre fitter would laugh if you asked if they would fit your Impreza still snake about in 2nd and 3rd gear.

That gen supra was well over engineerd. It was there flag ship model and they spend something like 10x+ the budget they used on the MR2.

Simple bolt on mods that we do to our cars (intercooler, boost pipes decat remap air filter etc) will produce supercar performance.

How exactly are these people getting 1000bhp from thee 3.0 or 3.2 n/a nsx? Very expensive custom turbo or supercharger kits I bet. Or isit the vetec

south_scoob

Not ony that you say more reliable but a supra uses CAST pistons that have been proven to take power that would most probably melt and nsx's

Sorry just because it looks exotic I don't think its the second best jap car ever!

south_scoob

To the nsx credit it will launch hard like all mid engine cars do but being rwd only it would defiantly take a good amount of skill to drive fast at the limit

gary77

iTrader: (1)

It's going to cost a lot to get either car over 900 bhp you are probably right more so the nsx , but personally that isn't something I take into account when comparing what car is better ,
I used to have a mk2 crx since then I've been a Honda man , (I bought the Subaru beccause Honda didn't do car with that kind of performance,for the same money )

I did a bit of a Google search and the nsx is a special car held in high regard by many , personally I think it's a different class than the supra

I'd be up for a test on that ,kinda top trumps style ,
Or if there is a record of each cars lap time round the nurburgring , but they have to be equally modded

gary77

iTrader: (1)

Well after writing that I googled nurburgring record scrolling down all the usual suspects , a few gtr then at 86th Subaru wrx sti ,lol keep going down nsx-r 97th no mention of the supra ,

I know that's not desisive but funny the wrx sti was higher , I shouldn't have doubted Subaru

The nsx isn't a contender against the gtr after all but still a great piece of jap aluminium ,

The new nsx is a contender for the top jap motor in my opinion anyway

south_scoob

Not surprised realy it would be terrifying driving a lightweight mid engine rear wheel drive "supercar" around the ring. You'd never see a Ferrari f430 performing a controlled slide at the ring.

Why? Because when they break traction the engine behind the driver acts as a pendulum. Over correct. Lift off. Or to slower reactions and your crashing.

Something like a La Ferrari with all driver aids off would be nearly impossible for me and you to get round without crashing if we were going for it!

neil-h

Don't take this the wrong way but is any of this real world experience, or is it all from playing Forza?

gary77

iTrader: (1)

What your talking about is driving a car to its limit , the nsx has been driven around the ring at a top 100 time , the same can't be said for the supra , talking standard trim production versions ,

Strangely though the impreza that did it in a record time for a sedan was modified using parts from two different my sti and undertray and gurney lip , couple other things , but the interesting thing for me is that it only had 320 bhp ,