The 2015-2016 Manchester United Thread
#33
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What a total Prima Donna, hopefully the poor lamb will be able to cope with the French League and the two tough games against the weak Marseilles a season
Hopefully Pedro arrives this week, looks far more of a United player being able to play anywhere across the front.
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Man United's priority in the transfer market this season were 2 centre backs, certainly at least one top drawer centre back. They also need a creative central midfield player aka a Paul Scholes type, a busy creator that can take on defenders and will also weigh in with a few goals. After selling RVP and letting Falcao leave United need 2 top drawer strikers because all that is left now is Rooney. They needed a right back which they look to have cured with Darmian who looks a top prospect on first impressions.
The signing of Schweinsteiger for me is a waste of time, Bayern Munich wouldn't have let him leave if he still had something to offer them. Bayern got the best of the deal here, they let an ageing player leave that's probably well past his best and has injury issues and replaced him with a top player in Vidal whose not yet reached the peak of his career. It should have been United going after the likes of Vidal.
So far i'd say i'm underwhelmed by the signings, Depay obviously has potential, Darmian looks a good signing but it's nowhere near enough to challenge Chelsea. United needed a fair few X factor signings like the Gareth Bale's of this world and Ronaldo just to name a couple etc
His signings don't look balanced, he's signed 2 players that play in the same position in Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin, you also have Carrick that plays in that same position, where is Blind going to slot in ? He did similar with the left backs, he signed Luke Shaw then he goes out and signs Rojo. I don't buy into his theory of having a player that can play several positions, Rojo has already proven that he's like a fish out of water at centre back.
I'm just glad they didn't go for that useless lump Cavani.
The signing of Schweinsteiger for me is a waste of time, Bayern Munich wouldn't have let him leave if he still had something to offer them. Bayern got the best of the deal here, they let an ageing player leave that's probably well past his best and has injury issues and replaced him with a top player in Vidal whose not yet reached the peak of his career. It should have been United going after the likes of Vidal.
So far i'd say i'm underwhelmed by the signings, Depay obviously has potential, Darmian looks a good signing but it's nowhere near enough to challenge Chelsea. United needed a fair few X factor signings like the Gareth Bale's of this world and Ronaldo just to name a couple etc
His signings don't look balanced, he's signed 2 players that play in the same position in Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin, you also have Carrick that plays in that same position, where is Blind going to slot in ? He did similar with the left backs, he signed Luke Shaw then he goes out and signs Rojo. I don't buy into his theory of having a player that can play several positions, Rojo has already proven that he's like a fish out of water at centre back.
I'm just glad they didn't go for that useless lump Cavani.
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Hardly a spectacular performance tonight but got the points and looked strong at the back. Was most impressed with Darmian - looks a very solid defender.
Januzaj lucky with the goal and showing again he doesn't have the strength to compete in the PL. Rooney shouldn't have got out of bed - if he wasn't captain he would have been subbed. Schweinsteger looks the part but was there every any doubt of that? Romero wasn't really tested but handled everything well and has good awareness & positioning.
Januzaj lucky with the goal and showing again he doesn't have the strength to compete in the PL. Rooney shouldn't have got out of bed - if he wasn't captain he would have been subbed. Schweinsteger looks the part but was there every any doubt of that? Romero wasn't really tested but handled everything well and has good awareness & positioning.
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Hardly a spectacular performance tonight but got the points and looked strong at the back. Was most impressed with Darmian - looks a very solid defender.
Januzaj lucky with the goal and showing again he doesn't have the strength to compete in the PL. Rooney shouldn't have got out of bed - if he wasn't captain he would have been subbed. Schweinsteger looks the part but was there every any doubt of that? Romero wasn't really tested but handled everything well and has good awareness & positioning.
Januzaj lucky with the goal and showing again he doesn't have the strength to compete in the PL. Rooney shouldn't have got out of bed - if he wasn't captain he would have been subbed. Schweinsteger looks the part but was there every any doubt of that? Romero wasn't really tested but handled everything well and has good awareness & positioning.
Darmian is a quality purchase, good old fashioned dirty Italian defender.
So far this season the players who would be in my starting XI would be
Darmian
Shaw
Smalling
Schweinstiger
Schneiderlin
Mata
The rest are up for grabs
Depay is beginning to realise what a tough league he's in but he and Mata seem to have an understanding.
Hopefully LVG has realised he needs an out and out striker before Sept 1st, Rooney was rotten.
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United need a top draw striker, Rooney isn't technically good enough to play up front on his own. His touch isn't great, he quite often miss-controls the ball or gives it away and he's hardly consistent.
Thomas Muller would be a good signing, i think he'd suit the premier league as he's big and strong, his goal scoring record speaks for itself. A quality centre half is a must along with a creative central midfielder, i don't really rate Herrera or Mata. Yeh both have the odd good game but they are a long way standard wise from what United need to compete with the likes of Man City and Chelsea along with competing in europe.
If De Gae goes the jury is out on how good Sergio Romero is as he's not really been tested as yet, will he be worth 10 - 12pts a season like De Gae was ? i'm not so sure on that, probably not. All the top teams in the premier league and around europe have top keepers, that's your starting point when building any team.
Thomas Muller would be a good signing, i think he'd suit the premier league as he's big and strong, his goal scoring record speaks for itself. A quality centre half is a must along with a creative central midfielder, i don't really rate Herrera or Mata. Yeh both have the odd good game but they are a long way standard wise from what United need to compete with the likes of Man City and Chelsea along with competing in europe.
If De Gae goes the jury is out on how good Sergio Romero is as he's not really been tested as yet, will he be worth 10 - 12pts a season like De Gae was ? i'm not so sure on that, probably not. All the top teams in the premier league and around europe have top keepers, that's your starting point when building any team.
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I don't think Rooney has had enough chance up front, Van gaal was to busy wasting his time on Valcao. He gave Valcao loads of time, Rooneys been playing in midfield for to long. He needs time to adapt. Think he deserves longer, plus spends most of his time running back defending, doing midfielders jobs.
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Otamendi to sign for City, I know LVG's target have to suit his philosophy but why not go for him instead of relying on Smalling and Blind, clearly Evans is not in his plans so a bit of strength in depth wouldn't go a miss
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He was awful again tonight, clumsy touches, giving the ball away and another game without a goal.
Does anyone think Schweinsteiger stops our flow ? I wouldn't say he's a United type player, he stops, thinks and pauses too much and by that time the opposition have got numbers back. United have always been about fast, flowing moves.
Does anyone think Schweinsteiger stops our flow ? I wouldn't say he's a United type player, he stops, thinks and pauses too much and by that time the opposition have got numbers back. United have always been about fast, flowing moves.
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He was awful again tonight, clumsy touches, giving the ball away and another game without a goal.
Does anyone think Schweinsteiger stops our flow ? I wouldn't say he's a United type player, he stops, thinks and pauses too much and by that time the opposition have got numbers back. United have always been about fast, flowing moves.
Does anyone think Schweinsteiger stops our flow ? I wouldn't say he's a United type player, he stops, thinks and pauses too much and by that time the opposition have got numbers back. United have always been about fast, flowing moves.
Depay put in a performance akin to those he was putting in last season against the weaker teams in the eredivisie, showing a lot of promise and determination to be a top player, he does love to cut in onto his right foot though, which does concern me, I'd like to see going down the line as well
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Pedro won't be coming to United, he's just agreed to join Chelsea.
United seemed to be messing around over the £21.5m buy out clause, think they offered around £19m. Crikey what's £21.5 these days for a proven international that's been at one of, if not the best teams in the world. That's what you get for messing about and stalling, someone then comes in and offers the asking price and steals him from under your nose.
United seemed to be messing around over the £21.5m buy out clause, think they offered around £19m. Crikey what's £21.5 these days for a proven international that's been at one of, if not the best teams in the world. That's what you get for messing about and stalling, someone then comes in and offers the asking price and steals him from under your nose.
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Pedro won't be coming to United, he's just agreed to join Chelsea.
United seemed to be messing around over the £21.5m buy out clause, think they offered around £19m. Crikey what's £21.5 these days for a proven international that's been at one of, if not the best teams in the world. That's what you get for messing about and stalling, someone then comes in and offers the asking price and steals him from under your nose.
United seemed to be messing around over the £21.5m buy out clause, think they offered around £19m. Crikey what's £21.5 these days for a proven international that's been at one of, if not the best teams in the world. That's what you get for messing about and stalling, someone then comes in and offers the asking price and steals him from under your nose.
When will we learn, happy to lose £15m on Di maria waste millions on Falcao and then haggle over £1.5 for a solid pro like Pedro, Woodward still showing he doesn't hold a candle to Gill
#49
This is looking like its going to be a pretty awful transfer period!
If we know De Gea is going then for me we have to get Lloris and quick!
We are turning into transfer mugs at the moment, being used by every player that wants a new contract and paying over the odds for the ones we do get.
Unless we get an exciting forward i.e. Muller then this may be another long season...
If we know De Gea is going then for me we have to get Lloris and quick!
We are turning into transfer mugs at the moment, being used by every player that wants a new contract and paying over the odds for the ones we do get.
Unless we get an exciting forward i.e. Muller then this may be another long season...
#50
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The MEN suggest it was LVG that decided against Pedro
Maybe he believes he has a real shot at getting Mueller
That would be an exciting prospect
Maybe he believes he has a real shot at getting Mueller
That would be an exciting prospect
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As a player or striker? As a striker i would agree, but 2011-2012 was the last time he was played as a striker where he scored 34 goals.
Since then hes been playing a deeper roll. So its going to take time for him to get back in the swing of things. If we can put up with a season of Valcao up front, its worth giving Rooney a chance.
As a player hes been the only consistently good player on the pitch, he needs to get use to sitting up front and stop using all his energy on dropping back in a defensive position. Let other players take the slack.
Since then hes been playing a deeper roll. So its going to take time for him to get back in the swing of things. If we can put up with a season of Valcao up front, its worth giving Rooney a chance.
As a player hes been the only consistently good player on the pitch, he needs to get use to sitting up front and stop using all his energy on dropping back in a defensive position. Let other players take the slack.
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United should have had their major signings wrapped up a long time ago, they needed at least 5 players to compete with the best teams in the premier league and europe. We needed a centre back, a right back, a right sided midfielder, a creative central midfielder and a striker.
So far we've brought in a right back, 2 defensive midfielders and an attacking wide midfielder that's playing on the left.
Personally i'd have let both Mata and Herrera find new clubs as neither are prolific performers, i'd have let Carrick go as well as he's getting on now and is too much sideways and backwards. I'd have pulled all the stops out to get Thomas Muller as a priority, then a top drawer central defender, we also need that creative midfield genius. I was confused as to why LVG signed 2 players that play in the same position as Carrick especially when other areas were a bigger priority, Schneiderlin yes, Schweinsteiger no.
As it stands now what we have isn't good enough to win a major trophy.
So far we've brought in a right back, 2 defensive midfielders and an attacking wide midfielder that's playing on the left.
Personally i'd have let both Mata and Herrera find new clubs as neither are prolific performers, i'd have let Carrick go as well as he's getting on now and is too much sideways and backwards. I'd have pulled all the stops out to get Thomas Muller as a priority, then a top drawer central defender, we also need that creative midfield genius. I was confused as to why LVG signed 2 players that play in the same position as Carrick especially when other areas were a bigger priority, Schneiderlin yes, Schweinsteiger no.
As it stands now what we have isn't good enough to win a major trophy.
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He did well but one swallow doesn't make a summer, let's make no bones about it, they were really poor. He needs to start doing it in the premier league against better and well organised defences, so far in 3 premier league games only one of our players has scored a goal, Januzai.
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If LVG hasn't got at least 3 top signings lined up before the transfer window closes then it's going to be a long hard season for United, i'm not convinced one bit by Romero in goal. He makes you nervous when he's got the ball at his feet, he was at fault for the 2nd goal with that feeble attempt, also a better keeper would have saved the first as it wasn't in the top corner and pretty close to him, he looked slow and sluggish to react to it. He's certainly no De Gae.
Rooney much again the same in the premier league, had 2 glorious chances in front of goal and failed to convert any of them and gave the ball away quite a bit. We look slow and lethargic, hardly surprising when Schweinsteiger and Carrick are in the middle. Daley Blind got owned by Gomis, he gets out muscled too easily for a centre back of which he isn't one.
A top drawer striker is a must along with a top drawer central midielder that can create chances for the strikers and a goalkeeper as today proved why Romero has spent most of his life as a number 2, he's even admitted he was surprised to be first choice keeper at United.
Rooney much again the same in the premier league, had 2 glorious chances in front of goal and failed to convert any of them and gave the ball away quite a bit. We look slow and lethargic, hardly surprising when Schweinsteiger and Carrick are in the middle. Daley Blind got owned by Gomis, he gets out muscled too easily for a centre back of which he isn't one.
A top drawer striker is a must along with a top drawer central midielder that can create chances for the strikers and a goalkeeper as today proved why Romero has spent most of his life as a number 2, he's even admitted he was surprised to be first choice keeper at United.
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Lethargic is exactly what we were. Should have been re-energised after that win mid week but again too afraid to take risks going forward so stop and pass backwards or sideways. Number of times Shaw looked like he was going to bomb forward but decided against it. Memphis was walking around most of the time. We just don't look dangerous going forward and teams see that and exploit us on the counter. Both goals I am positive De Gea would have saved.
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We need someone with real pace and vision in the middle, a world class finisher and a top GK if De Gea goes. Fingers crossed for the window closing. But I'm not holding my breath.
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I know but as i said he needs time, hes been stuck in midfeild for ages, its going to take time for him to get use to being up front, keeps dropping deep.
As i said Falcoa was used all last season and he was rubbish, Rooney deserves same chance. I think if they don't sell De gea, make him sit on bench the whole season. If he doesnt want to ply for Man u.
As i said Falcoa was used all last season and he was rubbish, Rooney deserves same chance. I think if they don't sell De gea, make him sit on bench the whole season. If he doesnt want to ply for Man u.
He did well but one swallow doesn't make a summer, let's make no bones about it, they were really poor. He needs to start doing it in the premier league against better and well organised defences, so far in 3 premier league games only one of our players has scored a goal, Januzai.