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Old 26 January 2015, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Blair and Bush gave Iraq a glimmer of hope (and yes I'm painfully aware of the cost), but that hope was snatched away by Islamists of the very worst flavour. As you know, Chris, hindsight is 20/20.
Yep 'shock and awe' really signalled a new era for Iraq. Over half a million civilians dead since, some hope.
Old 26 January 2015, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Fair comment and I agree that Blair (and so some extent Bush) was probably doing what he thought was right, but they did seem to have the "religious" blinkers on over a lot of things including the legitimacy of their actions.
I suspect is the crux of it
Old 26 January 2015, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
I suspect is the crux of it
Yes very probably
Old 26 January 2015, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Maz
Yep 'shock and awe' really signalled a new era for Iraq. Over half a million civilians dead since, some hope.
Militant Islamism stole the hope.
Old 26 January 2015, 04:49 PM
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or maybe it is just that people don't like their country invaded

the fact that is was by two evangelical Christians just made a bad situation worse

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Old 26 January 2015, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
or maybe it is just that people don't like their country invaded

the fact that is was by two evangelical Christians just made a bad situation worse
Nobody's invaded Nigeria, but the Islamists are insurgent there. Nobody invaded Syria, but the Islamists are insurgent there. Islamists hijacked the democratic revolution in Egypt. Nobody invaded the Yemen, but AQ are insurgent there. Who filled the vacuum in Libya?! Who are insurgent in Afghanistan?! Etc. etc...blame the rotten ideology of Islamism, not a couple of western politicians who happen to be Christian.
Old 26 January 2015, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Nobody's invaded Nigeria, but the Islamists are insurgent there. Nobody invaded Syria, but the Islamists are insurgent there. Islamists hijacked the democratic revolution in Egypt. Nobody invaded the Yemen, but AQ are insurgent there. Who filled the vacuum in Libya?! Who are insurgent in Afghanistan?! Etc. etc...blame the rotten ideology of Islamism, not a couple of western politicians who happen to be Christian.
but we are talking about Iraq
Old 26 January 2015, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
but we are talking about Iraq
Pakistan, Somalia, Chechnya, Palestine, Lebanon...

The common denominator is Islamism, not Blair and Bush!
Old 26 January 2015, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Pakistan, Somalia, Chechnya, Palestine, Lebanon...

The common denominator is Islamism, not Blair and Bush!
Have you spent any time in any of those countries?
Old 26 January 2015, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Maz
Have you spent any time in any of those countries?
We've been to Egypt. The missus didn't fancy Chechnya, although we'd quite like to go on an all inclusive to Peshawar!
Old 26 January 2015, 05:36 PM
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Lol, the anti-christ Charlie Zelenoff has acquired 3 votes.
Old 26 January 2015, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
We've been to Egypt. The missus didn't fancy Chechnya, although we'd quite like to go on an all inclusive to Peshawar!
Cool, I can sort you out with a cheap package deal to Peshawar.
Old 26 January 2015, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Maz
Cool, I can sort you out with a cheap package deal to Peshawar.
Old 26 January 2015, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Pakistan, Somalia, Chechnya, Palestine, Lebanon...

The common denominator is Islamism, not Blair and Bush!


All muslim countries are the same.
Old 26 January 2015, 07:07 PM
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How come John McCririck is not on the list???????
Old 26 January 2015, 08:07 PM
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I'll knock up a SN member list! ...Probably best doing a favourite member list.
Old 27 January 2015, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Shouldn't Genghis Khan be top of the list?
After reading the Conn Iggulden trilogy (I appreciate artistic license and all that!) but I ended up quite admiring the Mongols and Genghis!
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